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Past All Forgetting
Librarian's note: Alternate cover edition of ISBN 0-373-70743-6.
Even as Janna pleaded with Rian for mercy, she realized it was futile.
Rian hadn't forgotten anything that had passed between them seven years earlier. Not forgotten--and not forgiven. Why had he come back? What did he intend?
Rian laughed sardonically. "You always knew I'd be back, and you know why as well. Hang on to your courage, sweet witch. You're going to need every last ounce of it by the time I've done with you!"
Even as Janna pleaded with Rian for mercy, she realized it was futile.
Rian hadn't forgotten anything that had passed between them seven years earlier. Not forgotten--and not forgiven. Why had he come back? What did he intend?
Rian laughed sardonically. "You always knew I'd be back, and you know why as well. Hang on to your courage, sweet witch. You're going to need every last ounce of it by the time I've done with you!"
187 pages, Paperback
First published January 1, 1978
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Sara Craven
493 books267 followersAnne Bushell was born on October 1938 in South Devon, England, just before World War II and grew up in a house crammed with books. She was always a voracious reader, some of her all-time favorites books are: "Pride and Prejudice" by Jane Austen, "Middlemarch" by George Eliot, "Jane Eyre" by Charlotte Brontë, "Gone With the Wind" by Margaret Mitchell and "The Code of the Woosters" by P. G. Wodehouse.
She worked as journalist at the Paignton Observer, but after her marriage, she moved to the north of England, where she worked as teacher. After she returned to journalism, she joined the Middlesbrough Writers' Group, where she met other romance writer Mildred Grieveson (Anne Mather). She started to wrote romance, and she had her first novel "Garden of Dreams" accepted by Mills & Boon in 1975, she published her work under the pseudonym of Sara Craven. In 2010 she became chairman of the Southern Writers' Conference, and the next year was elected the twenty-six Chairman (2011–2013) of the Romantic Novelists' Association.
Divorced twice, Annie lives in Somerset, South West England, and shares her home with a West Highland white terrier called Bertie Wooster. In her house, she had several thousand books, and an amazing video collection. When she's not writing, she enjoys watching very old films, listening to music, going to the theatre, and eating in good restaurants. She also likes to travel in Europe, to inspire her romances, especially in France, Greece and Italy where many of her novels are set. Since the birth of her twin grandchildren, she is also a regular visitor to New York City, where the little tots live. In 1997, she was the overall winner of the BBC's Mastermind, winning the last final presented by Magnus Magnusson.
She worked as journalist at the Paignton Observer, but after her marriage, she moved to the north of England, where she worked as teacher. After she returned to journalism, she joined the Middlesbrough Writers' Group, where she met other romance writer Mildred Grieveson (Anne Mather). She started to wrote romance, and she had her first novel "Garden of Dreams" accepted by Mills & Boon in 1975, she published her work under the pseudonym of Sara Craven. In 2010 she became chairman of the Southern Writers' Conference, and the next year was elected the twenty-six Chairman (2011–2013) of the Romantic Novelists' Association.
Divorced twice, Annie lives in Somerset, South West England, and shares her home with a West Highland white terrier called Bertie Wooster. In her house, she had several thousand books, and an amazing video collection. When she's not writing, she enjoys watching very old films, listening to music, going to the theatre, and eating in good restaurants. She also likes to travel in Europe, to inspire her romances, especially in France, Greece and Italy where many of her novels are set. Since the birth of her twin grandchildren, she is also a regular visitor to New York City, where the little tots live. In 1997, she was the overall winner of the BBC's Mastermind, winning the last final presented by Magnus Magnusson.
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June 14, 2022
6/14/22
Annual comfort re-read and not a moment too soon. And I thought I'd mention the glamorous and unusual M&B cover by Jørn Beinkamp. Why unusual? Because there are only 4 M&B and HQN covers between the mid 1960s - 1980s—out of thousands—where one of the MCs is lying on top of the other in a sexual situation. Beinkamp's favorite chiaroscuro effects and gestural scumbling of pencil, ink and acrylic evoke an atmosphere of moody sexiness perfect for the story. A very 1960's image.
Update 8/10/21
I got the french version for my b-day.
Artist Will Davies, it's wonderful but not as evocative as the HP cover
Cover artist Don Besco. Fabulous cover, no visible sig but the formal details: color choice, composition, facial features, overall gestalt!—given the artists working for HP at the time—there's really no one else it could be. Over the years I've occasionally used a blown up version of this as my desktop image, which I totally recommend ifyou want to scare your husband half to death you have a clear conscience—those eyes are piercing—this cover conveys the tone of the book perfectly!
the TL;DR review of my favorite Harley of all time:
Sara C: what about an H who's rational and even tempered?—not obviously motivated by pride or jealousy—owns nothing but a fancy sports car, some turtlenecks and a ruffled dress shirt—really subversive stuff!
Iris: swoons
or maybe SC was firmly on the side of HP's wrathful angels and simply lost control of her H who was like:
Rian: sorry Sara, vengeance just isn't my scene man!
SC: what? Have you forgotten what that scheming little tease did to you?
Rian: lighten up Sara I was there—but she was just a kid, a super hot kid but still...
SC: Kid? She was 16, that's like 25 in hero years.
Rian: but yeah thanks for dressing her in that little see-through number.
Iris: (squeeing) Wait! I loved that look. I wanted that look—the crocheted "trouser suit", the frosted lip gloss, the silk rose...
If you're like me you'll queue up Yvonne Elliman's If I Can't Have You and alternate with something super consciously gloomy like Morrisey's Everyday is like Sunday—listen on a loop while you read.
Annual comfort re-read and not a moment too soon. And I thought I'd mention the glamorous and unusual M&B cover by Jørn Beinkamp. Why unusual? Because there are only 4 M&B and HQN covers between the mid 1960s - 1980s—out of thousands—where one of the MCs is lying on top of the other in a sexual situation. Beinkamp's favorite chiaroscuro effects and gestural scumbling of pencil, ink and acrylic evoke an atmosphere of moody sexiness perfect for the story. A very 1960's image.
Update 8/10/21
I got the french version for my b-day.
Artist Will Davies, it's wonderful but not as evocative as the HP cover
Cover artist Don Besco. Fabulous cover, no visible sig but the formal details: color choice, composition, facial features, overall gestalt!—given the artists working for HP at the time—there's really no one else it could be. Over the years I've occasionally used a blown up version of this as my desktop image, which I totally recommend if
the TL;DR review of my favorite Harley of all time:
Sara C: what about an H who's rational and even tempered?—not obviously motivated by pride or jealousy—owns nothing but a fancy sports car, some turtlenecks and a ruffled dress shirt—really subversive stuff!
Iris: swoons
or maybe SC was firmly on the side of HP's wrathful angels and simply lost control of her H who was like:
Rian: sorry Sara, vengeance just isn't my scene man!
SC: what? Have you forgotten what that scheming little tease did to you?
Rian: lighten up Sara I was there—but she was just a kid, a super hot kid but still...
SC: Kid? She was 16, that's like 25 in hero years.
Rian: but yeah thanks for dressing her in that little see-through number.
Iris: (squeeing) Wait! I loved that look. I wanted that look—the crocheted "trouser suit", the frosted lip gloss, the silk rose...
If you're like me you'll queue up Yvonne Elliman's If I Can't Have You and alternate with something super consciously gloomy like Morrisey's Everyday is like Sunday—listen on a loop while you read.
November 26, 2017
This story is way more nuanced than the blurb promises. In fact, it's astonishing how much SC packs into this story. This is definitely a romance that celebrates the cost of passion over social norms, but it doesn't end in tragedy like most romances with this theme. SC gives the heroine her happy ending after she suffers a bit.
The premise: the heroine at 15-almost 16 chases after the 25 year-old war correspondent hero. The hero tries to resist her, but when they start making out in his bedroom while a party is going on below, they are caught by his aunt and uncle. The hero is unrepentant and owns up to his actions. The heroine is ashamed and lets the aunt think that the hero forced her and ripped her shirt off. She did this because she didn't want her mother to know that she had been a willing participant. But her mother never found out because the aunt and uncle elected to keep it in the family. The upshot: the hero is disinherited. The aunt and uncle shut up the house and move to a warmer climate. And the heroine carries a burden of guilt for 7 years.
When the story opens the heroine is engaged to the son of the owner of the main employer in town. She is a teacher at the local primary school and a good one. As soon as she hears the hero's name, she assumes he's going to exact his revenge. He has bought the his aunt and uncles house and has plans to turn it into a youth hostel and outdoor center. To add to the drama, the hero has enrolled a Vietnamese girl in her class. Everyone assumes she is a souvenir from his time as a war correspondent. The heroine never asks him about his relationship to the girl.
I'm going to echo the very insightful review below. The hero in this one isn't the revenge agent. His return is the catalyst that sets the heroine in motion.
Because the heroine is full of guilt (and realizes she still loves/is attracted to the hero more than her fiance), she starts questioning everything in her life.
So - I was 16 in 1978 when this was published. And I can tell you the heroine's behavior would have been scandalous (but not unheard of) in my little corner of the world. The hero had absolutely no business with a girl that young. Her mother was right to be worried (and the lack of communication between mother and daughter sounds about right).
There was no good way for this story to end if the H/h had gotten together at the time. What's too bad is that the heroine never worked through it until the hero showed up again. She lost a lot of confidence and independent thought. She just hoped that that by following the rules she would get rid of her guilt. But you can't get rid of guilt if you never ask for forgiveness or even try to understand your actions.
SC did a great job with the school politics and the stultifying atmosphere of small town life. I was glad that SC didn't give the H/h a conventional ending with them slipping into village life, accepted by all. Instead they get travel and adventure and they can finally let their freak flags fly for all to see.
The premise: the heroine at 15-almost 16 chases after the 25 year-old war correspondent hero. The hero tries to resist her, but when they start making out in his bedroom while a party is going on below, they are caught by his aunt and uncle. The hero is unrepentant and owns up to his actions. The heroine is ashamed and lets the aunt think that the hero forced her and ripped her shirt off. She did this because she didn't want her mother to know that she had been a willing participant. But her mother never found out because the aunt and uncle elected to keep it in the family. The upshot: the hero is disinherited. The aunt and uncle shut up the house and move to a warmer climate. And the heroine carries a burden of guilt for 7 years.
When the story opens the heroine is engaged to the son of the owner of the main employer in town. She is a teacher at the local primary school and a good one. As soon as she hears the hero's name, she assumes he's going to exact his revenge. He has bought the his aunt and uncles house and has plans to turn it into a youth hostel and outdoor center. To add to the drama, the hero has enrolled a Vietnamese girl in her class. Everyone assumes she is a souvenir from his time as a war correspondent. The heroine never asks him about his relationship to the girl.
I'm going to echo the very insightful review below. The hero in this one isn't the revenge agent. His return is the catalyst that sets the heroine in motion.
Because the heroine is full of guilt (and realizes she still loves/is attracted to the hero more than her fiance), she starts questioning everything in her life.
So - I was 16 in 1978 when this was published. And I can tell you the heroine's behavior would have been scandalous (but not unheard of) in my little corner of the world. The hero had absolutely no business with a girl that young. Her mother was right to be worried (and the lack of communication between mother and daughter sounds about right).
There was no good way for this story to end if the H/h had gotten together at the time. What's too bad is that the heroine never worked through it until the hero showed up again. She lost a lot of confidence and independent thought. She just hoped that that by following the rules she would get rid of her guilt. But you can't get rid of guilt if you never ask for forgiveness or even try to understand your actions.
SC did a great job with the school politics and the stultifying atmosphere of small town life. I was glad that SC didn't give the H/h a conventional ending with them slipping into village life, accepted by all. Instead they get travel and adventure and they can finally let their freak flags fly for all to see.
July 27, 2016
But first a warning: no one has amnesia. I don't know that Craven wrote an amnesia book, certainly I don't remember one from my previous experience with her oeuvre. So we're not dealing with a forgetting from a brain injury but instead something so heinous that the heroine can never forget. And gosh, she's tried!
Janna is a teacher (a job!) and she lives with her parents in the village where she grew up. Her family is comfortably middle class, but Janna has landed rich Colin, so her mum's a bit lah di dah about posh soon to be in laws. Janna's not so sure - Colin's making noises about her quitting work after the wedding, and her father in law is an awful bully to his employees.
These concerns are minor compared to the apocalypse about to crash all over her lovely dull future. Her schoolgirl crush is back in town. He's in her school! He's placing a shy little girl in her classroom! Drama!!
Time for you to pay for what you did to me, Rian tells Janna (or words to that effect) let the revenge plot begin!
There's a lot of backstory flashback, but to summarise: Janna followed Rian around, Rian grumbled about it a little while suppressing his hot eyed stares, until one day Janna threw herself at him at a party and they ended up in bed. Rian's uncle walked in on them and to save her reputation Janna said Rian was raping her.
She ran out, promising that of course she’d never mention it, nothing happened, etc. Later, she learned that Rian had been thrown out and disinherited. He left and she never saw him again. She's been wracked with guilt ever since and certain that one day he'll return, and she'll have to face the music.
Rape accusations are highly contentious and this is a significant background flaw in a heroine. Sara Craven presents it sympathetically, although within a highly class-conscious context. Janna's panic is predominantly that if she's presented as a willing participant Rian's wealthy relatives will think badly of her, and it will bring shame to her family.
I got this, because a significant part of the plot not to do with the romance is to do with Janna's relationship with her mother. Which at first looks lovely. Janna still living at home as an adult with her own income and independence hasn't caused any friction. They like spending time together. But the mother is a snob, and her behaviour and expectations surrounding her daughter are driven by that snobbery. As a teen, Janna responded to a social situation that would have diminished her in her mother's eyes with panic. She gets a chance to see just how far her mother is prepared to go to preserve her intended future for Janna, and confront her disappointment over how her mother's values aren't driven by her daughter's happiness.
I like complex family relationships and it impressed me how many layers Craven packed into this one in such a short book. Janna's mother is certainly villainous but this plot operates comfortably in everyone having a few grey areas.
Of course, the bigger plot is the revenge and it's fantastic! Within a tiny space of time Janna loses her fiancé, her superficially good relationship with her mother, her personal and her professional reputation. And Rian doesn't do a thing! He's the catalyst, but this is one of those perfect revenge stories where the victim does it all herself. I was so pleased, this is a different take from those poor innocents who don't realise they're targets until it's pointed out to them. This is curse revenge and it's near perfect.
I was so taken with how awesome all this was that I didn't have a great deal of time for the actual romance but that's ok. It's all predicated on the fact that neither of them ever stopped loving the other, and feeling hurt that the other hadn't, when apparently given all opportunity to do so, fought harder for their love. This works. Each in their own way was angry but earnest about putting things right.
They each make stupid mistakes trying to set each other free of the past, and it was sweet ... Or at least as sweet as Craven ever gets, which is basically sour gummy bear.
Rian can't be given view point because it would spoil the tension but he's rather lovely. All right, once again that's subjective since even Craven's rare heroes with senses of humour that's not just snark have some clear anger management issues. I can't honestly fault him for almost succumbing to temptation and sexing with an underage girl because that's pretty much built into the genre and the consciousness that physical attraction is impossible to deny when true love is thrown into the mix.
The fact that Jenna was flawed and had such a complex relationship with her mother and had to suffer through a huge reputation loss which I actually cared about, plus went through the usual torture of the feels completely won me over. She's active - even if she's most active in her own self destruction, so I thought she was just great.
This is another favourite for me.
Janna is a teacher (a job!) and she lives with her parents in the village where she grew up. Her family is comfortably middle class, but Janna has landed rich Colin, so her mum's a bit lah di dah about posh soon to be in laws. Janna's not so sure - Colin's making noises about her quitting work after the wedding, and her father in law is an awful bully to his employees.
These concerns are minor compared to the apocalypse about to crash all over her lovely dull future. Her schoolgirl crush is back in town. He's in her school! He's placing a shy little girl in her classroom! Drama!!
Time for you to pay for what you did to me, Rian tells Janna (or words to that effect) let the revenge plot begin!
There's a lot of backstory flashback, but to summarise: Janna followed Rian around, Rian grumbled about it a little while suppressing his hot eyed stares, until one day Janna threw herself at him at a party and they ended up in bed. Rian's uncle walked in on them and to save her reputation Janna said Rian was raping her.
She ran out, promising that of course she’d never mention it, nothing happened, etc. Later, she learned that Rian had been thrown out and disinherited. He left and she never saw him again. She's been wracked with guilt ever since and certain that one day he'll return, and she'll have to face the music.
Rape accusations are highly contentious and this is a significant background flaw in a heroine. Sara Craven presents it sympathetically, although within a highly class-conscious context. Janna's panic is predominantly that if she's presented as a willing participant Rian's wealthy relatives will think badly of her, and it will bring shame to her family.
I got this, because a significant part of the plot not to do with the romance is to do with Janna's relationship with her mother. Which at first looks lovely. Janna still living at home as an adult with her own income and independence hasn't caused any friction. They like spending time together. But the mother is a snob, and her behaviour and expectations surrounding her daughter are driven by that snobbery. As a teen, Janna responded to a social situation that would have diminished her in her mother's eyes with panic. She gets a chance to see just how far her mother is prepared to go to preserve her intended future for Janna, and confront her disappointment over how her mother's values aren't driven by her daughter's happiness.
I like complex family relationships and it impressed me how many layers Craven packed into this one in such a short book. Janna's mother is certainly villainous but this plot operates comfortably in everyone having a few grey areas.
Of course, the bigger plot is the revenge and it's fantastic! Within a tiny space of time Janna loses her fiancé, her superficially good relationship with her mother, her personal and her professional reputation. And Rian doesn't do a thing! He's the catalyst, but this is one of those perfect revenge stories where the victim does it all herself. I was so pleased, this is a different take from those poor innocents who don't realise they're targets until it's pointed out to them. This is curse revenge and it's near perfect.
I was so taken with how awesome all this was that I didn't have a great deal of time for the actual romance but that's ok. It's all predicated on the fact that neither of them ever stopped loving the other, and feeling hurt that the other hadn't, when apparently given all opportunity to do so, fought harder for their love. This works. Each in their own way was angry but earnest about putting things right.
They each make stupid mistakes trying to set each other free of the past, and it was sweet ... Or at least as sweet as Craven ever gets, which is basically sour gummy bear.
Rian can't be given view point because it would spoil the tension but he's rather lovely. All right, once again that's subjective since even Craven's rare heroes with senses of humour that's not just snark have some clear anger management issues. I can't honestly fault him for almost succumbing to temptation and sexing with an underage girl because that's pretty much built into the genre and the consciousness that physical attraction is impossible to deny when true love is thrown into the mix.
The fact that Jenna was flawed and had such a complex relationship with her mother and had to suffer through a huge reputation loss which I actually cared about, plus went through the usual torture of the feels completely won me over. She's active - even if she's most active in her own self destruction, so I thought she was just great.
This is another favourite for me.
This entire review has been hidden because of spoilers.
August 7, 2014
this was one big bitch heroine which we encountered! not only did she cry rape but she also felt like the victim! what she did was unforgivable and she was the villain in the story, for me atleast. i can't understand what the hero fell in love wid! her body!? lol. who can fall in love wid a woman who accuse you of rape !? when she was actually begging of it!it was more like she cud have raped him! hahaha!
January 15, 2023
3.5
Putting this review here rather than under the kindle cover travesty (I did actually read the kindle one) because I hate those samey blue/pink/photo-model covers with a passion. For me, the cover influences the reading feel and is part of why modern day M&Bs don't cut it. If they are going to reissue digital versions of the great Sara Craven's works, why not use the original cover? I presume it's money.
Anyway, this is a good one. Solid characterization and plot and some additional food for thought on life's decisions and if onlys. As an insight into the immoderate pursuit of an object of passion by the teenage girl, this one really delivers. Oh, how we have all been there. Poor Janna's devotion wasn't quite mature or strong enough, on the flagrante spur of the moment, to overcome a lifetime's good-girling in a convention obsessed small town and family. And how she suffers for this lapse throughout the story. Her mother's role is also interesting. An object lesson on not superimposing your own wants onto your child, still valid in so many ways to every generation.
The fiance and fiance's father were a bit comedy northerner stereotypes as is generally the case in these books when they are set outside London and the South. Also still valid in so many ways to every generation.
Rian is a good H, a man of strong values and self control whose only real weakness is his love for the h. I liked his laconic style and self sufficiency. The only complaint from me, in their moments of physical connection, was the one that happened the morning after the drinking/vomiting night before. It took quite an effort for me to willingly suspend belief that she didn't have a mouth like the bottom of a parrot's cage. Not very romantic. I also wasn't keen on the plot-required miscommunication/misconception about the child, Fleur. Child as object/plot device is always a teeth sucking thing for me; I'm not a fan of the instrumentalizing of another human being, hence my dislike of the modern accidental pregnancy/secret baby trope. Racking my brains to think of an SC book with one of those and I don't think there is one so this is only a minor quibble. Probably explains my strong preference for vintage authors as it's become a lazy go--to scenario these days.
Putting this review here rather than under the kindle cover travesty (I did actually read the kindle one) because I hate those samey blue/pink/photo-model covers with a passion. For me, the cover influences the reading feel and is part of why modern day M&Bs don't cut it. If they are going to reissue digital versions of the great Sara Craven's works, why not use the original cover? I presume it's money.
Anyway, this is a good one. Solid characterization and plot and some additional food for thought on life's decisions and if onlys. As an insight into the immoderate pursuit of an object of passion by the teenage girl, this one really delivers. Oh, how we have all been there. Poor Janna's devotion wasn't quite mature or strong enough, on the flagrante spur of the moment, to overcome a lifetime's good-girling in a convention obsessed small town and family. And how she suffers for this lapse throughout the story. Her mother's role is also interesting. An object lesson on not superimposing your own wants onto your child, still valid in so many ways to every generation.
The fiance and fiance's father were a bit comedy northerner stereotypes as is generally the case in these books when they are set outside London and the South. Also still valid in so many ways to every generation.
Rian is a good H, a man of strong values and self control whose only real weakness is his love for the h. I liked his laconic style and self sufficiency. The only complaint from me, in their moments of physical connection, was the one that happened the morning after the drinking/vomiting night before. It took quite an effort for me to willingly suspend belief that she didn't have a mouth like the bottom of a parrot's cage. Not very romantic. I also wasn't keen on the plot-required miscommunication/misconception about the child, Fleur. Child as object/plot device is always a teeth sucking thing for me; I'm not a fan of the instrumentalizing of another human being, hence my dislike of the modern accidental pregnancy/secret baby trope. Racking my brains to think of an SC book with one of those and I don't think there is one so this is only a minor quibble. Probably explains my strong preference for vintage authors as it's become a lazy go--to scenario these days.
March 23, 2016
I didn't like this one at all....she's too young when they meet and it goes downhill from there.
She accuses him of attempted rape and of course he is innocent .....but she is underage and if someone hadn't walked in that is exactly what would have happened....because she is underage and he was taking her clothes off.
so no this one is a bad-dy.
She accuses him of attempted rape and of course he is innocent .....but she is underage and if someone hadn't walked in that is exactly what would have happened....because she is underage and he was taking her clothes off.
so no this one is a bad-dy.
July 17, 2021
Even as Janna pleaded with Rian for mercy, she realized it was futile.
Rian hadn't forgotten anything that had passed between them seven years earlier. Not forgotten--and not forgiven. Why had he come back? What did he intend?
Rian laughed sardonically. "You always knew I'd be back, and you know why as well. Hang on to your courage, sweet witch. You're going to need every last ounce of it by the time I've done with you!"
Rian hadn't forgotten anything that had passed between them seven years earlier. Not forgotten--and not forgiven. Why had he come back? What did he intend?
Rian laughed sardonically. "You always knew I'd be back, and you know why as well. Hang on to your courage, sweet witch. You're going to need every last ounce of it by the time I've done with you!"
February 2, 2023
Revenge plots in a Harlequin are a hit-and-miss for me - sometimes I like them, sometimes they're a bit too much for me. The last "revenge" one I recall liking was Patricia Wilson's "A Lingering Melody", which *spoiler alert* turned out to show that the H used the "revenge" as an excuse to rebuild his relationship with the h. It's probably why I'm so fond of this book too - the H may be sore about a few things (but not about what the h thinks he is angry with her for) but his aim is to win her back rather than put her through any long-term misery. Though the H in this one does a far better job of not-actually-threatening than the H in Lingering Melody, so that most of his menace is really what is built in the h's head...but it's not like he won't use her perceptions of him to his advantage.
Like many M&B's where the couple have some sort of history, the flashbacks come in fits and starts, so that we are better acquainted with the h in her present, before delving into why she is now the way she is.
Janna (h) is a schoolteacher in her early twenties, all prim and proper and not even a hair strand out of place, paired up with a rather bland OM whose family has titles and pedigree. Her mum approves, her dad simply wants her to be happy. All through the first chapter we see her looking guarded and closed-off...until she encounters a house that has been left alone for years - one that she has VERY bittersweet memories of.
Colin (the OM and her fiancé) suggests they buy the house, as the Colonel who used to live there recently passed away (as did his wife a few years earlier), and their globetrotting nephew had been disowned seven years ago and isn't likely to show up at their tiny town anyway. At the mention of the nephew the h bristles coz she has some *very good ideas* WHY the nephew was cast out.
She flashes back to her teen years, where we see a wholly different Janna - very confident, rather-self centred, out to get what she wants by any means possible and driven mad by desire because of...who else!...the Colonel's nephew, Rian Tempest (H). He tries (not hard enough though - there's still some level of flirting going on and he's not completely successful in hiding how he feels from her) to fend her off - treating her like a child, dating other girls, even pushing her into the shallow part of a river when she tries to ogle at him skinny-dipping one night.
However, she winds up being invited to a party by the H's aunt, dresses herself up in a lacy see-through pantsuit with no bra on, secretly sexy-dances in front of the hero and basically just breaks down whatever little defences the man has left before he finally carries her to bed. They're thankfully caught before they can actually do the deed, but the aftermath is a trainwreck of epic proportions.
All said and done, this h is a kid and the H basically left his brains on the terrace. They jumped into this situation without the slightest idea what they'd do next (I say this for every book I have read so far that has an adult H and a teen h - yes there are situations where you're so stretched to your limits that you finally lose it and that's what happens in most scenes involving a compromising situation between the two. It's still important to acknowledge that in all these cases the H should have at least communicated more). To say Janna handled her reaction to this situation badly would be an understatement - she panics and accuses Rian of assault, seemingly breaking his relationship with his surviving relatives and getting him disowned (I will try to explore this aspect of the story later, but as previous reviewers put it, it has a lot to do with the h's own familial relationships).
Janna's guilt over the whole episode isn't shown immediately, but rather it creeps into her consciousness and warps it so that she spends the next seven years enacting some form of self-flagellation. Even though she is engaged, she seems to show no desire or enthusiasm to take things further with her fiancé, and seems almost afraid of her desires and needs.
So when the OM and his dad suggest buying the H's old house, the h balks at the suggestion because as far as she is concerned she is the whole reason the H was disinherited in the first place. Shortly after, it's revealed that the H has returned to the town.
In the midst of some friction between the H and the OM's family about the house - the H buys back the house in order to convert it into an adventure center and the OM's dad plans to thwart these plans - Janna goes to Rian to "beg for mercy" so that he doesn't target people close to her, and he makes some vaguely threatening remarks about how he won't let her forget what she had done (he does strongly allude to the incident where she accused him once or twice tho). It doesn't take too long for the catlike Jenna to unleash her claws, and when she does, the H's response is to laugh and tell her that THAT is the Janna he knows and remembers.
The house issue takes up the first half of the book, but we also get other threads - for instance, the new student in school who everyone believes is Rian's love-child with a Vietnamese woman, Colin and his father's union issues, and the shifty behaviour of Janna's mother every time either Rian or Colin (but especially Rian) are mentioned. Throughout this time, Janna has to deal with her confused emotions around Rian, her growing discontent with her future in-laws, and town gossips. Rian for his part attempts to engineer situations where he could be alone with Janna, kisses her a couple times and comments on her response to him, and she bonds with his "daughter" Fleur in the meantime as well.
Tensions run high at a party where Colin's father and Rian argue over Rian's current plans for the house, and Janna has finally had enough with Colin and his father's highhandedness and snobbery and drinks way too many brandies (Colin's dad also notices the v obvious sexual tension between Rian and Janna). She gets sick on the way home, so Rian takes her to a motel to sleep it all off, and the two almost sleep together in the morning before being interrupted by room service.
She confronts Colin on the way home, is honest about the situation with Rian (telling Colin that she wanted Rian, but Rian did the honorable thing of "not taking advantage" of her) and breaks off their engagement. Rian seems to withdraw from her too at this stage, so Janna focuses on preparing her class for the Nativity Play for Christmas. Rian's "kid" Fleur manages to get the leading role due to her excellent singing over the daughter of a family who somehow always gets their children to bag lead roles, leading to some friction both within the classroom and, soon enough, outside of it as well.
Rumours begin to spread about Rian and Janna spending the night at a motel (the oldest sister of the kid who wanted to play the Virgin Mary was a chambermaid there), and people speculate that Janna gave little Fleur the role because of her affair with Rian. Janna hears about this news from different people (including a colleague who is now actively dating her ex-fiancé), and is extremely distressed by both the rumour and the possibility that Fleur's mother is coming back to live with Rian (she believes the speculation that they're lovers, and Rian hasn't exactly said otherwise because he was hoping Janna would directly ask him).
Rian catches her in this state of distress (which he believes was caused by Colin's engagement with the colleague) and brings her home. They almost get into bed together - again- but Janna stops it in time believing that no matter how much she loves him, he belongs to Kim San. Heartbroken (because Rian believes Janna is still in love with Colin) he promises to keep out of her life from then on and cause no further damage.
By this time Janna has already resigned from her teaching job (since she can't bear to see Rian get married to someone else), and is only staying around to showcase the Christmas play. While discussing Colin's engagement with her mother one day, the latter lets it slip that Rian had in fact never resented Janna for her behaviour at that party, and in fact had wanted to marry and take her with him after a year. Unfortunately (or fortunately?) for Janna, her *mother* saw that mail instead of her, and hid it away because she thought Janna was too young. She had also warned him off when he visited the house after Janna's first confrontation, making him believe that Janna genuinely loved Colin. Essentially Janna realizes there may have been a chance Rian loved her but that she has now lost that love.
The Christmas pageant goes without a hitch (despite one of the brats attempting to ruin Fleur's dress, which Kim San manages to replace) and Janna is given a lovely send-off by the school, before learning from Kim San that Fleur's dad isn't Rian as everyone assumed, but a friend of his. Essentially the couple had been having seven years of fighting between them, which they only recently managed to resolve. Incidentally Rian took Fleur with him so the two could have the space to reconnect, while also ensuring that they can later work at the adventure center he plans to build. Janna finally realised he's loved her all along and hurries back to Rian's old house before he leaves for good, confessing her love for him and clearing up all their doubts.
It turns out Rian and his uncle patched up their old fight before the latter died, and it was he who had provided enough money to Rian so he could purchase the house as soon as it came into the market. Rian's main aim for returning was to win Janna back, while punishing her a tiny bit for never replying to his letter. He had been blindsided by the mother, who had convinced him that Janna truly loved her fiancé, which was why he withdrew even though he loved her. The two confess their feelings, kiss, promise to stay together and explore the world together for real this time, and I'm pretty sure they'd have gotten hot-and-heavy right there and then if Kim San, her husband and Fleur hadn't interrupted them (again!!).
"Past All Forgetting" was lovely! I definitely loved Rian - he's got that gently mocking debonair type of personality that I love to see in M&B's, and he's just the right amount of secretly-besotted. My first assumption - having read so many Harlequins by now - was that he would keep a grudge (and the heroine's actions make it such that he wouldn't be entirely wrong for doing so - her words could have inflicted some serious damage!), but I was pleasantly surprised that he understood the nuances of the situation straightaway and really tried to relieve Janna of that burden. What he's truly angry about is her supposed lack of care in responding to him, but as soon as he sees how much she's hurting herself, he finds it hard to maintain the facade of the vengeful ex.
Janna tends to get mixed reactions in general - mostly, I think, because of how awful her 17-yr-old reaction to being caught was. And it IS written in a way that is extremely unflattering to her - to punctuate just how terrible her accusations of assault are, the writing shows us a Rian who warns her off multiple times and who is giving her an out from the situation just minutes before the two are caught by his relatives. But what really captures me about that sequence - and this character in general - is how tied into her worldview is the way her mother sees things. Janna's father is more easygoing and consistently trusts her to make her own decisions, but her mother often projects her conservative approach onto Janna. Janna grows up with a curiosity about sex that -together with her intense feelings for Rian - explodes into a situation she can't fully understand and is poorly prepared for, but with a mother who is immensely uncomfortable actually TALKING about these things to her daughter. Which is why her first thought when she is caught is fear for what the ensuing shame will do to her parents - but it hurts the one man she had feelings for and casts him out of his own. That she spends close to a decade punishing herself for that speaks to how intense her feelings for him still are.
The OM and (fake) OW are pretty alright. You can see straightaway why Colin is wrong for Janna, and also why Janna chose him in the first place. We slowly get to see how badly things may have gone for Janna if she had eventually married into that family, and Rian is definitely the perfect contrast to that both in the excitement and unpredictability he represents, and the genuine emotions and understanding he feels for Janna. Kim San (and her beloved, Philip) - I kind of view this couple as a parallel to the leads. They spend years miscommunicating and arguing and not actually finding a solution that would allow them to be together, until Rian takes Fleur to his old town and allows them that space. It's only fitting that in the end, they are the ones who make sure Janna and Rian get THEIR happily-ever-after.
The story actually makes a pretty cool and subtle parallel between the leads - both of them, as adults, have significant conflicts with their parental figures and wind up in situations where they may have to choose between their parental figure and their beloved. In the past, Rian clashes with his uncle over his lifestyle (which culminates in him being cut off from the family when he tells his uncle he intends to marry Jenna once she's 18). In the present, Janna has less-explosive, but still very eye-opening, confrontations with her mother where they clash over her life and her relationships. The mother views the bland, boring life that Janna could lead with Colin as peaceful and comforting, but Janna herself can never be happy with such a life, and acknowledges that she needs to pursue what gives her joy first. The book itself ends with Rian reminding her that they are free, that they can travel wherever his work takes them...but that now they can also try to build a permanent home to settle down to as well. Essentially - the two get to fulfill their own desires to travel and contribute to the world, while ensuring they have a home to return to like their parents would want for them.
(Sidenote re: Janna's mother: tbh I understand some of her motivations for hiding Rian's letter from Janna when she was 17. Rian's way of life was too alien to her and Janna too young for her mother to contemplate taking that risk. What I did find annoying was her continued interference after. They COULD have frankly spoken about it - Janna is 26, has considerably more life experience and would at least have gotten a bit of confidence to explore what SHE wanted from her life. As it is the nervous, cowed-down Janna is the type of woman she knows will please her mother, and it never made her happy)
Overall I really love this book. Maybe not as much as Comparative Strangers from the same author, but still pretty damn close! 4.5/5.
Like many M&B's where the couple have some sort of history, the flashbacks come in fits and starts, so that we are better acquainted with the h in her present, before delving into why she is now the way she is.
Janna (h) is a schoolteacher in her early twenties, all prim and proper and not even a hair strand out of place, paired up with a rather bland OM whose family has titles and pedigree. Her mum approves, her dad simply wants her to be happy. All through the first chapter we see her looking guarded and closed-off...until she encounters a house that has been left alone for years - one that she has VERY bittersweet memories of.
Colin (the OM and her fiancé) suggests they buy the house, as the Colonel who used to live there recently passed away (as did his wife a few years earlier), and their globetrotting nephew had been disowned seven years ago and isn't likely to show up at their tiny town anyway. At the mention of the nephew the h bristles coz she has some *very good ideas* WHY the nephew was cast out.
She flashes back to her teen years, where we see a wholly different Janna - very confident, rather-self centred, out to get what she wants by any means possible and driven mad by desire because of...who else!...the Colonel's nephew, Rian Tempest (H). He tries (not hard enough though - there's still some level of flirting going on and he's not completely successful in hiding how he feels from her) to fend her off - treating her like a child, dating other girls, even pushing her into the shallow part of a river when she tries to ogle at him skinny-dipping one night.
However, she winds up being invited to a party by the H's aunt, dresses herself up in a lacy see-through pantsuit with no bra on, secretly sexy-dances in front of the hero and basically just breaks down whatever little defences the man has left before he finally carries her to bed. They're thankfully caught before they can actually do the deed, but the aftermath is a trainwreck of epic proportions.
All said and done, this h is a kid and the H basically left his brains on the terrace. They jumped into this situation without the slightest idea what they'd do next (I say this for every book I have read so far that has an adult H and a teen h - yes there are situations where you're so stretched to your limits that you finally lose it and that's what happens in most scenes involving a compromising situation between the two. It's still important to acknowledge that in all these cases the H should have at least communicated more). To say Janna handled her reaction to this situation badly would be an understatement - she panics and accuses Rian of assault, seemingly breaking his relationship with his surviving relatives and getting him disowned (I will try to explore this aspect of the story later, but as previous reviewers put it, it has a lot to do with the h's own familial relationships).
Janna's guilt over the whole episode isn't shown immediately, but rather it creeps into her consciousness and warps it so that she spends the next seven years enacting some form of self-flagellation. Even though she is engaged, she seems to show no desire or enthusiasm to take things further with her fiancé, and seems almost afraid of her desires and needs.
So when the OM and his dad suggest buying the H's old house, the h balks at the suggestion because as far as she is concerned she is the whole reason the H was disinherited in the first place. Shortly after, it's revealed that the H has returned to the town.
In the midst of some friction between the H and the OM's family about the house - the H buys back the house in order to convert it into an adventure center and the OM's dad plans to thwart these plans - Janna goes to Rian to "beg for mercy" so that he doesn't target people close to her, and he makes some vaguely threatening remarks about how he won't let her forget what she had done (he does strongly allude to the incident where she accused him once or twice tho). It doesn't take too long for the catlike Jenna to unleash her claws, and when she does, the H's response is to laugh and tell her that THAT is the Janna he knows and remembers.
The house issue takes up the first half of the book, but we also get other threads - for instance, the new student in school who everyone believes is Rian's love-child with a Vietnamese woman, Colin and his father's union issues, and the shifty behaviour of Janna's mother every time either Rian or Colin (but especially Rian) are mentioned. Throughout this time, Janna has to deal with her confused emotions around Rian, her growing discontent with her future in-laws, and town gossips. Rian for his part attempts to engineer situations where he could be alone with Janna, kisses her a couple times and comments on her response to him, and she bonds with his "daughter" Fleur in the meantime as well.
Tensions run high at a party where Colin's father and Rian argue over Rian's current plans for the house, and Janna has finally had enough with Colin and his father's highhandedness and snobbery and drinks way too many brandies (Colin's dad also notices the v obvious sexual tension between Rian and Janna). She gets sick on the way home, so Rian takes her to a motel to sleep it all off, and the two almost sleep together in the morning before being interrupted by room service.
She confronts Colin on the way home, is honest about the situation with Rian (telling Colin that she wanted Rian, but Rian did the honorable thing of "not taking advantage" of her) and breaks off their engagement. Rian seems to withdraw from her too at this stage, so Janna focuses on preparing her class for the Nativity Play for Christmas. Rian's "kid" Fleur manages to get the leading role due to her excellent singing over the daughter of a family who somehow always gets their children to bag lead roles, leading to some friction both within the classroom and, soon enough, outside of it as well.
Rumours begin to spread about Rian and Janna spending the night at a motel (the oldest sister of the kid who wanted to play the Virgin Mary was a chambermaid there), and people speculate that Janna gave little Fleur the role because of her affair with Rian. Janna hears about this news from different people (including a colleague who is now actively dating her ex-fiancé), and is extremely distressed by both the rumour and the possibility that Fleur's mother is coming back to live with Rian (she believes the speculation that they're lovers, and Rian hasn't exactly said otherwise because he was hoping Janna would directly ask him).
Rian catches her in this state of distress (which he believes was caused by Colin's engagement with the colleague) and brings her home. They almost get into bed together - again- but Janna stops it in time believing that no matter how much she loves him, he belongs to Kim San. Heartbroken (because Rian believes Janna is still in love with Colin) he promises to keep out of her life from then on and cause no further damage.
By this time Janna has already resigned from her teaching job (since she can't bear to see Rian get married to someone else), and is only staying around to showcase the Christmas play. While discussing Colin's engagement with her mother one day, the latter lets it slip that Rian had in fact never resented Janna for her behaviour at that party, and in fact had wanted to marry and take her with him after a year. Unfortunately (or fortunately?) for Janna, her *mother* saw that mail instead of her, and hid it away because she thought Janna was too young. She had also warned him off when he visited the house after Janna's first confrontation, making him believe that Janna genuinely loved Colin. Essentially Janna realizes there may have been a chance Rian loved her but that she has now lost that love.
The Christmas pageant goes without a hitch (despite one of the brats attempting to ruin Fleur's dress, which Kim San manages to replace) and Janna is given a lovely send-off by the school, before learning from Kim San that Fleur's dad isn't Rian as everyone assumed, but a friend of his. Essentially the couple had been having seven years of fighting between them, which they only recently managed to resolve. Incidentally Rian took Fleur with him so the two could have the space to reconnect, while also ensuring that they can later work at the adventure center he plans to build. Janna finally realised he's loved her all along and hurries back to Rian's old house before he leaves for good, confessing her love for him and clearing up all their doubts.
It turns out Rian and his uncle patched up their old fight before the latter died, and it was he who had provided enough money to Rian so he could purchase the house as soon as it came into the market. Rian's main aim for returning was to win Janna back, while punishing her a tiny bit for never replying to his letter. He had been blindsided by the mother, who had convinced him that Janna truly loved her fiancé, which was why he withdrew even though he loved her. The two confess their feelings, kiss, promise to stay together and explore the world together for real this time, and I'm pretty sure they'd have gotten hot-and-heavy right there and then if Kim San, her husband and Fleur hadn't interrupted them (again!!).
"Past All Forgetting" was lovely! I definitely loved Rian - he's got that gently mocking debonair type of personality that I love to see in M&B's, and he's just the right amount of secretly-besotted. My first assumption - having read so many Harlequins by now - was that he would keep a grudge (and the heroine's actions make it such that he wouldn't be entirely wrong for doing so - her words could have inflicted some serious damage!), but I was pleasantly surprised that he understood the nuances of the situation straightaway and really tried to relieve Janna of that burden. What he's truly angry about is her supposed lack of care in responding to him, but as soon as he sees how much she's hurting herself, he finds it hard to maintain the facade of the vengeful ex.
Janna tends to get mixed reactions in general - mostly, I think, because of how awful her 17-yr-old reaction to being caught was. And it IS written in a way that is extremely unflattering to her - to punctuate just how terrible her accusations of assault are, the writing shows us a Rian who warns her off multiple times and who is giving her an out from the situation just minutes before the two are caught by his relatives. But what really captures me about that sequence - and this character in general - is how tied into her worldview is the way her mother sees things. Janna's father is more easygoing and consistently trusts her to make her own decisions, but her mother often projects her conservative approach onto Janna. Janna grows up with a curiosity about sex that -together with her intense feelings for Rian - explodes into a situation she can't fully understand and is poorly prepared for, but with a mother who is immensely uncomfortable actually TALKING about these things to her daughter. Which is why her first thought when she is caught is fear for what the ensuing shame will do to her parents - but it hurts the one man she had feelings for and casts him out of his own. That she spends close to a decade punishing herself for that speaks to how intense her feelings for him still are.
The OM and (fake) OW are pretty alright. You can see straightaway why Colin is wrong for Janna, and also why Janna chose him in the first place. We slowly get to see how badly things may have gone for Janna if she had eventually married into that family, and Rian is definitely the perfect contrast to that both in the excitement and unpredictability he represents, and the genuine emotions and understanding he feels for Janna. Kim San (and her beloved, Philip) - I kind of view this couple as a parallel to the leads. They spend years miscommunicating and arguing and not actually finding a solution that would allow them to be together, until Rian takes Fleur to his old town and allows them that space. It's only fitting that in the end, they are the ones who make sure Janna and Rian get THEIR happily-ever-after.
The story actually makes a pretty cool and subtle parallel between the leads - both of them, as adults, have significant conflicts with their parental figures and wind up in situations where they may have to choose between their parental figure and their beloved. In the past, Rian clashes with his uncle over his lifestyle (which culminates in him being cut off from the family when he tells his uncle he intends to marry Jenna once she's 18). In the present, Janna has less-explosive, but still very eye-opening, confrontations with her mother where they clash over her life and her relationships. The mother views the bland, boring life that Janna could lead with Colin as peaceful and comforting, but Janna herself can never be happy with such a life, and acknowledges that she needs to pursue what gives her joy first. The book itself ends with Rian reminding her that they are free, that they can travel wherever his work takes them...but that now they can also try to build a permanent home to settle down to as well. Essentially - the two get to fulfill their own desires to travel and contribute to the world, while ensuring they have a home to return to like their parents would want for them.
(Sidenote re: Janna's mother: tbh I understand some of her motivations for hiding Rian's letter from Janna when she was 17. Rian's way of life was too alien to her and Janna too young for her mother to contemplate taking that risk. What I did find annoying was her continued interference after. They COULD have frankly spoken about it - Janna is 26, has considerably more life experience and would at least have gotten a bit of confidence to explore what SHE wanted from her life. As it is the nervous, cowed-down Janna is the type of woman she knows will please her mother, and it never made her happy)
Overall I really love this book. Maybe not as much as Comparative Strangers from the same author, but still pretty damn close! 4.5/5.
This entire review has been hidden because of spoilers.
September 1, 2021
When Janna was 17, she had a crush on Rian, 10 years older, and did her best to seduce him. Unfortunately, the situation got out of her hand and Rian, who lived with his uncle and aunt (his parents had died) when his job as a journalist (which forced him to travel frequently) allowed him to, ended up being thrown out of the family and even disinherited.
Seven years later, at the time when Janna's life is stable (with her work as a teacher and even engaged to another man), Rian returns to town with a girl who will take classes with her, and Janna believes that he comes to get revenge. Endless entanglements occur that trigger a series of misunderstandings.
The plot takes place in a small British town, in which EVERYTHING is known and blatantly speculated. The virtue of a woman is highly valued and not being a virgin is being the town's slut in the sight of everyone. *sigh* Un fact, misogyny and double standards are the order of the day. *Aisha rolls her eyes*
That said, the story can be read. It has been well written and the scenes flow naturally. Janna is a woman who has a way of thinking far ahead of her time to some extent; she remains a virgin because of the way she was raised. Rian, for his part, is the typical cosmopolitan man. But he's in love with Janna since day one, although they were seven years apart from each other.
Secondary characters? Let's say that, with the exception of Janna's father, who wants his daughter to be happy above all else, everyone gave me chills. Especially Calvin, Janna's fiancé, Beth, the unbearable co-worker and Janna's mother, whom I still don't understand... *Aisha wants to hit something*
Anyway, a good story and fast reading, but for the 21st century, where there's a lot of feminist movements, is somewhat shocking. And it's vintage Sara Craven, written in the late '70s. It was a suitable plot for the era in which it was published. Today? That's a bit questionable. Anyway, I recommend this book to old school people, who like this type of book.
Seven years later, at the time when Janna's life is stable (with her work as a teacher and even engaged to another man), Rian returns to town with a girl who will take classes with her, and Janna believes that he comes to get revenge. Endless entanglements occur that trigger a series of misunderstandings.
The plot takes place in a small British town, in which EVERYTHING is known and blatantly speculated. The virtue of a woman is highly valued and not being a virgin is being the town's slut in the sight of everyone. *sigh* Un fact, misogyny and double standards are the order of the day. *Aisha rolls her eyes*
That said, the story can be read. It has been well written and the scenes flow naturally. Janna is a woman who has a way of thinking far ahead of her time to some extent; she remains a virgin because of the way she was raised. Rian, for his part, is the typical cosmopolitan man. But he's in love with Janna since day one, although they were seven years apart from each other.
Secondary characters? Let's say that, with the exception of Janna's father, who wants his daughter to be happy above all else, everyone gave me chills. Especially Calvin, Janna's fiancé, Beth, the unbearable co-worker and Janna's mother, whom I still don't understand... *Aisha wants to hit something*
Anyway, a good story and fast reading, but for the 21st century, where there's a lot of feminist movements, is somewhat shocking. And it's vintage Sara Craven, written in the late '70s. It was a suitable plot for the era in which it was published. Today? That's a bit questionable. Anyway, I recommend this book to old school people, who like this type of book.
October 4, 2016
I found it hard to get past that she had unjustly accused him of rape ....usually when the hero wants revenge its for something the heroine didn't do.
but it was really well written
but it was really well written
October 13, 2025
EDIT: spoilers below beware!
Okay, after reading, there were some discoveries that sort of softened the H and h a bit: There was a letter H wrote about year after leaving the area after the um first incident when the h was young that the h's mother kept from her the whole time that would have changed things a bit.
There is a reason for the H moving the little girl to the area although I'm still wondering why he didn't just stay in a hotel until he was through building the apartment for her and her mom, et al.
Heroine did finally get her crap together and grow a bit of a spine, and start to grow up, finally. And eventually reigned in her students, although she's still a crappy teacher as she let the other kids say shitty stuff to the one kid and ruin her costume without ever confronting them. Now, the kid's mom was pretty amazing at dealing with the main girl by being so kind to her she felt bad about what she did, but really that teacher should have been nipping all the racism and other-ism in the dang bud.
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Original review while still reading:
As one reviewer said, while the h falsely accused the H of rape, this happened when she was 16. And he was like idk 27 ish.
Actually now that I think of it, in England currently the laws are that a 16 yo is of age enough to consent. I think.
Not sure of the laws back then. But if it was in the states, and things had progressed as the h and the H wanted them to without being interrupted, it would have actually been statutory rape.
OTOH, the accusation of rape which is never once in the 7 years that have passed refuted by the h, is unforgivable. The H's only family, his aunt and uncle, went to their grave thinking he attempted to rape (in both the statutory and like violent/forcible sense) a 16 year old child.
AND, when the H returns to town with vengeance on his mind, AND the h is given several opportunities to just fess up to what happened to people, she refuses to.
And on top of that, the h is just a crappy teacher. She is emotionally vulnerable to her students to a ridiculous degree and when a spoiled student turns the class against her, acts like she's their peer being bullied instead of, you know, taking charge of the classroom and not letting it get to her.
H is just as selfish for bringing this child to a climate that is unsuitable for her poor health and installing her in a barely-finished giant old house with no one to care for her and hardly any furniture, and several times neglecting her welfare in order to torture/make out with/ pursue vengeance on the h.
Frankly they deserve each other.
There's a HEA for ya lol.
Okay, after reading, there were some discoveries that sort of softened the H and h a bit: There was a letter H wrote about year after leaving the area after the um first incident when the h was young that the h's mother kept from her the whole time that would have changed things a bit.
There is a reason for the H moving the little girl to the area although I'm still wondering why he didn't just stay in a hotel until he was through building the apartment for her and her mom, et al.
Heroine did finally get her crap together and grow a bit of a spine, and start to grow up, finally. And eventually reigned in her students, although she's still a crappy teacher as she let the other kids say shitty stuff to the one kid and ruin her costume without ever confronting them. Now, the kid's mom was pretty amazing at dealing with the main girl by being so kind to her she felt bad about what she did, but really that teacher should have been nipping all the racism and other-ism in the dang bud.
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Original review while still reading:
As one reviewer said, while the h falsely accused the H of rape, this happened when she was 16. And he was like idk 27 ish.
Actually now that I think of it, in England currently the laws are that a 16 yo is of age enough to consent. I think.
Not sure of the laws back then. But if it was in the states, and things had progressed as the h and the H wanted them to without being interrupted, it would have actually been statutory rape.
OTOH, the accusation of rape which is never once in the 7 years that have passed refuted by the h, is unforgivable. The H's only family, his aunt and uncle, went to their grave thinking he attempted to rape (in both the statutory and like violent/forcible sense) a 16 year old child.
AND, when the H returns to town with vengeance on his mind, AND the h is given several opportunities to just fess up to what happened to people, she refuses to.
And on top of that, the h is just a crappy teacher. She is emotionally vulnerable to her students to a ridiculous degree and when a spoiled student turns the class against her, acts like she's their peer being bullied instead of, you know, taking charge of the classroom and not letting it get to her.
H is just as selfish for bringing this child to a climate that is unsuitable for her poor health and installing her in a barely-finished giant old house with no one to care for her and hardly any furniture, and several times neglecting her welfare in order to torture/make out with/ pursue vengeance on the h.
Frankly they deserve each other.
There's a HEA for ya lol.
March 23, 2013
Lo primero comentar que este libro en España lleva por título: "Más allá del olvido" y distinta portada :)
No sé sí es porque me pilló en momento sentimental pero simplemente... ¡lo amé! Me gustó muchísimo esta novela y guardaré a Rian Tempest entre mis protagonistas favoritos.
A mí esta novela de Craven me ha gustado muchísimo :) Creo que lo le sucede a muchos es que el libro es de 1978 y por lo tanto, tiene "ideas" que en este 2013 no compartimos del todo pero eran muy comunes por aquel entonces.
La historia me ha tenido enganchada desde el principio y los protagonistas, ambos, Janna y Rian, también me han convencido (él mucho más que ella). Debo destacar que Rian, el protagonista masculino es muy parecido a esos personajes que más me llaman la atención en las novelas en cuanto actitud: ser el de la mala reputación, irónico, sus contestaciones también sobre todo... muy buenas, llenas de sarcasmo y ese humor irritante. SIEMPRE con una sonrisa burlona.
La historia nos cuenta como una adolescente (Janna) vive por y para un chico/hombre que le lleva diez años y es el ídolo de cualquier fémina en el pueblo pero además, también la oveja negra del lugar. Es muy gracioso leer los "trucos" de Janna para lograr que él se fije en ella y no la vea como una niña... porque a pesar de su reputación, Rian siempre la "respeta" o lucha por no dejarse arrastrar porque sabe que es DEMASIADO joven... Mí predicción fue acertada
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Así que... solo me queda comentar que estoy feliz de haber decidido finalmente "hincarle el diente" a esta novela y la guardaré con cariño en mi biblioteca personal :) Y por supuesto solo añadir que... ¡recomendado!
No sé sí es porque me pilló en momento sentimental pero simplemente... ¡lo amé! Me gustó muchísimo esta novela y guardaré a Rian Tempest entre mis protagonistas favoritos.
A mí esta novela de Craven me ha gustado muchísimo :) Creo que lo le sucede a muchos es que el libro es de 1978 y por lo tanto, tiene "ideas" que en este 2013 no compartimos del todo pero eran muy comunes por aquel entonces.
La historia me ha tenido enganchada desde el principio y los protagonistas, ambos, Janna y Rian, también me han convencido (él mucho más que ella). Debo destacar que Rian, el protagonista masculino es muy parecido a esos personajes que más me llaman la atención en las novelas en cuanto actitud: ser el de la mala reputación, irónico, sus contestaciones también sobre todo... muy buenas, llenas de sarcasmo y ese humor irritante. SIEMPRE con una sonrisa burlona.
La historia nos cuenta como una adolescente (Janna) vive por y para un chico/hombre que le lleva diez años y es el ídolo de cualquier fémina en el pueblo pero además, también la oveja negra del lugar. Es muy gracioso leer los "trucos" de Janna para lograr que él se fije en ella y no la vea como una niña... porque a pesar de su reputación, Rian siempre la "respeta" o lucha por no dejarse arrastrar porque sabe que es DEMASIADO joven... Mí predicción fue acertada
Más cosas:
Así que... solo me queda comentar que estoy feliz de haber decidido finalmente "hincarle el diente" a esta novela y la guardaré con cariño en mi biblioteca personal :) Y por supuesto solo añadir que... ¡recomendado!
February 16, 2024
The one where the 16-yr old heroine pursues the 25-yr old hero and then when caught making out by his aunt, she lies to save her reputation by saying she was forced by the hero.
Strong start, “meh” ending.
Strong start, “meh” ending.
June 17, 2017
I love the story when i first read it over 30 years ago and i still like it now.
May 23, 2020
Bought this from Morgan's bookstall in town same year it was published.
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October 12, 2017MÁS ALLÁ DEL OLVIDO (Spanish Version)
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