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More or Less: Choosing a Lifestyle of Excessive Generosity
In More or Less, Jeff Shinabarger calls readers to create their own social experiments to answer the question, “What is enough?”
It all started with one idea: What would happen if we created a culture in which we gave away whatever was more than enough for us? How would our habits change if we shed the excess of money, clutter, and food in our lives? In More or Less, readers will learn how to draw a line of “enough” in their consumer choices, how to see generosity as a chance to experience freedom in a greedy world, and how to make small changes now that will help others forever. As Shinabarger reminds them, defining “enough” is more than a responsibility—it is an opportunity to give hope.
It all started with one idea: What would happen if we created a culture in which we gave away whatever was more than enough for us? How would our habits change if we shed the excess of money, clutter, and food in our lives? In More or Less, readers will learn how to draw a line of “enough” in their consumer choices, how to see generosity as a chance to experience freedom in a greedy world, and how to make small changes now that will help others forever. As Shinabarger reminds them, defining “enough” is more than a responsibility—it is an opportunity to give hope.
272 pages, Hardcover
First published March 1, 2013
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Jeff Shinabarger
7 books8 followersJeff Shinabarger is a bestselling author and founder of Plywood People, a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. His work has been featured by Forbes, Inc., CNN, USA Weekend and Huffington Post. He is the co-founder of Q, mentored over 600 start-ups and created the largest social entrepreneur event in the South called Plywood Presents.
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May 11, 2013
I have a lot of stuff, despite my efforts not to. And I let myself off the hook, because I know my kids don't have as many toys as the Joneses and our house isn't anything fancy next to the Watkinses and we don't spend money like the Finches. Even so, the idea of not having more than you need has been something I've been trying to live for quite some time.
So the idea behind More or Less: Choosing a Life of Excessive Generosity, by Jeff Shinabarger, appealed to me.
That is, until I started reading it.
Last week, in my weekly reading update, I wrote, "This book is another life-changer and game-changer for me. (I’m not exactly thrilled about that, because I wasn’t necessarily LOOKING to have things go all changey-changey on me!)"
Yeah. That times ten.
I was struck, first, by the challenge that we have enough food. I think I'll be attacking my cupboards soon. And my freezer. But meal-planning did cure me of a lot of that, to be honest.
And the clothes thing is something that I've been on top of. I need to do some more weeding through, true enough, but not something that made me do more than think more deeply about my other excess.
And then, then, there was the chapter on time.
Oh. Wow. But there's more...
And here's the kicker:
Time is worth more than money to so many people I know, and yes, even to me. I've been working hard over the last five years especially to hone in my "here's what can be done" approach to my life. And yet...and yet I feel like I fail.
Why does there have to be so much to do?
Part of it's having kids, part of it's having a lot of small project work, part of it's that I have to be at a certain level of busy to function well.
But what Shinabarger is outlining in this chapter so well is a different approach to time, one that I've been flirting with and haven't yet been able to articulate. In fact, just a few paragraphs later, he talks about something that has been on my heart since the smartphone explosion all around me (nope, I'm NOT getting one) and since my kids have gotten older: presence.
He goes on to define and outline some time indicators and that may help you, as they helped me, to further consider how my time spent reflects on what my priorities truly are.
There are 14 chapters in More or Less, covering virtually everything in your life, from your kitchen pantry to your closet to your time, from your transportation to your presents to your access. I didn't find it a fast read, though it's a VERY good read. I found I could only manage so much before my brain sort of stopped. I needed to noodle a bit before I could read more.
It's practical and applicable and it doesn't just leave you with a good idea. Shinaberger outlines a general plan of action after he shares how he or others approached what he calls Enough Experiments. In fact, he went so far as to build a pretty rockin website that has links to the videos mentioned in the book, a discussion guide, and a worksheet to help you with your closet.
What makes this an incredible book isn't just that it's tightly written, that it has a thread of story running through the whole thing, that Jeff sounds like the kind of guy you would probably like. What makes this a remarkable read is the challenge it leaves in your heart, the way it forces you to acknowledge your role in the world at large, whether you choose to engage or not. It reminds me, in fact, of how I felt and continue to feel after reading Refuse to Do Nothing.
Read this book. And then share it with someone close to you.
So the idea behind More or Less: Choosing a Life of Excessive Generosity, by Jeff Shinabarger, appealed to me.
That is, until I started reading it.
Last week, in my weekly reading update, I wrote, "This book is another life-changer and game-changer for me. (I’m not exactly thrilled about that, because I wasn’t necessarily LOOKING to have things go all changey-changey on me!)"
Yeah. That times ten.
I was struck, first, by the challenge that we have enough food. I think I'll be attacking my cupboards soon. And my freezer. But meal-planning did cure me of a lot of that, to be honest.
And the clothes thing is something that I've been on top of. I need to do some more weeding through, true enough, but not something that made me do more than think more deeply about my other excess.
And then, then, there was the chapter on time.
There was a time, not so long ago, when the polite answer to the question "How are you?" was, "Fine." It seems that busy is the new fine. We look at one another with that shake of the head, sideways smirk, and glossy eyes, proclaiming our busyness. This shared response succinctly identifies a recent cultural shift: we now determine the significance of a person by how busy they are. Somehow, busy has become better than fine. It seems especially highlighted since the economic downturn. Busy shows that we still have a job and things to do, which is a positive answer amidst the endlessly looping, negative news cycle.
The problem is this: busy is not better than fine. Just because I'm busy does not mean I'm fine. And when it comes right down to it, often busy means that I'm not fine at all. What we're really saying with one simple word is, "I can't keep up with everything in my life. I actually can't keep up with any of the things in my life. But that makes me important, doesn't it?"
Oh. Wow. But there's more...
Often the first ball we drop is our relationships. Being "busy" quickly becomes a barrier or excuse in the way of true community. I am busy, and many of my friends know that I am busy. When the only answer I ever give them in response to the question "How are you?" is, "Busy," this communicates that I don't have time for them. When I constantly say, "I'm busy," I communicate to others that "I don't need you right now." Most of our friends pick up this subtle message and stay away.
What we often realize too late is that our "busy" answer is actually a choice not to engage in our community. We choose to do other stuff over hanging out with our friends. If I continue to tell myself the lie that busy is good, I slowly enter into more of an isolated and a self-centered existence.
And here's the kicker:
...if we are too busy to engage in relationships, we face a larger problem. When I respond and tell you I am too busy, too often I actually need your help. Often in those times when we most need a deep relationship, instead of pursuing that relationship, we embrace our task list and avoid the comfort and support that true friendship can offer. And the result of being extra busy, ironically, is loneliness and depression.
Time is worth more than money to so many people I know, and yes, even to me. I've been working hard over the last five years especially to hone in my "here's what can be done" approach to my life. And yet...and yet I feel like I fail.
Why does there have to be so much to do?
Part of it's having kids, part of it's having a lot of small project work, part of it's that I have to be at a certain level of busy to function well.
But what Shinabarger is outlining in this chapter so well is a different approach to time, one that I've been flirting with and haven't yet been able to articulate. In fact, just a few paragraphs later, he talks about something that has been on my heart since the smartphone explosion all around me (nope, I'm NOT getting one) and since my kids have gotten older: presence.
Presence is not fast, big, or cheap. You cannot replace presence with someone or something else. Presence is an essential element that we all need and desire in our deepest relationships. It's unspoken. It's true. It's the greatest encouragement anyone can ever receive or give. Presence is a physical expression of love in the midst of a culture that never stops—it is to stop and be with someone that matters.
He goes on to define and outline some time indicators and that may help you, as they helped me, to further consider how my time spent reflects on what my priorities truly are.
There are 14 chapters in More or Less, covering virtually everything in your life, from your kitchen pantry to your closet to your time, from your transportation to your presents to your access. I didn't find it a fast read, though it's a VERY good read. I found I could only manage so much before my brain sort of stopped. I needed to noodle a bit before I could read more.
It's practical and applicable and it doesn't just leave you with a good idea. Shinaberger outlines a general plan of action after he shares how he or others approached what he calls Enough Experiments. In fact, he went so far as to build a pretty rockin website that has links to the videos mentioned in the book, a discussion guide, and a worksheet to help you with your closet.
What makes this an incredible book isn't just that it's tightly written, that it has a thread of story running through the whole thing, that Jeff sounds like the kind of guy you would probably like. What makes this a remarkable read is the challenge it leaves in your heart, the way it forces you to acknowledge your role in the world at large, whether you choose to engage or not. It reminds me, in fact, of how I felt and continue to feel after reading Refuse to Do Nothing.
Read this book. And then share it with someone close to you.
April 18, 2013
An excerpt of a review recently posted on Schaeffer's Ghost:
Fourth, Shinabarger’s analysis of generosity is secular—by which I mean: a compassionate Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist, pagan, or atheist could agree with … everything in this book. I find this troubling. While it is certainly true that those outside the faith can be generous and do good things, Christians’ lives should be pervaded by the Gospel such that it is impossible for us to really explain why we do any good thing without reference to Christ the Source of All Good. Christ is the reason we can do good things, He is the reason our sinful hearts want to do good things, and His is the power that enables us to do good things. Yet Shinabarger’s exploration of generosity seemed to be, well, largely secular. Faith lifts right out without disturbing the substance of his points.Full review available here.
For these reasons, I would argue that Shinabarger’s book, while practically useful, is not actually a Christian book. So if you’re looking to simplify, make do with less, or give more, then by all means read this book. Even better, read it with a friend and engage with the material. Open your Bible and see where Shinabarger is right, and where he’s wrong. What does the Bible have to say about generosity? What sins in your life keep you from obeying those commands, and how can you fight those sins? How does the Gospel inform our attitude toward our possessions, our food, our clothes, and our time? How can Christians spur one another on to love and good deeds in these areas? These questions, and many more, are well worth asking. Shinabarger doesn’t ask them, but I appreciate him at least starting the conversation.
February 3, 2014
The gist of this book can be boiled down to the following principles:
1. Here is a thing that you take for granted and probably have too much of.
2. I, too, once had too much of the thing, but now I don't.
3. You should examine your own life and downsize or get rid of the thing.
4. Here's some generic action steps on how to deal with the thing!
I know that I have too many clothes and shoes, too much space, too much time. That is what the minimalist movement is all about; I would much rather read a book about how to build my own house and think strategically and sustainably about how I'd like to live. To me, this book falls into the trap of many self-help books: it tells you to identify a problem you're having, and gives extremely general ideas on how to solve it.
You don't need to read this book to know that being generous with your time, belongings, and money can make you feel better and enact more positive changes. So don't.
1. Here is a thing that you take for granted and probably have too much of.
2. I, too, once had too much of the thing, but now I don't.
3. You should examine your own life and downsize or get rid of the thing.
4. Here's some generic action steps on how to deal with the thing!
I know that I have too many clothes and shoes, too much space, too much time. That is what the minimalist movement is all about; I would much rather read a book about how to build my own house and think strategically and sustainably about how I'd like to live. To me, this book falls into the trap of many self-help books: it tells you to identify a problem you're having, and gives extremely general ideas on how to solve it.
You don't need to read this book to know that being generous with your time, belongings, and money can make you feel better and enact more positive changes. So don't.
November 1, 2015
The whitest, and most blatantly U.S.-centric, suburban commentary on excess that I've ever considered reading. Somehow, I'm glad I forced myself to finish it. As usually happens, the more determined my resistance to hear a person's message, the more I have to learn from it. The author is entitled and naive, and yet all the stories I want to call arrogant, are still at their core, genuinely generous. I realized that these stories were so difficult for me because I have the privilege of being surrounded by people who have built their lives around generosity, reducing excess, and creating community beyond narrow and shared experiences. That said, the number of examples that started with "just" asking friends to pony up $100 a month, or give away "all those" unused gift cards, makes me wonder whether the author actually knows anyone on a fixed income. The multiple solutions for creating secondary economies of excess require someone else to buy one's stuff. Yep, even though he started with the risks of gift cards, somehow he became the hero of that chapter by starting an organization that gives unused cards to people in need. The examples, yeah yeah, I get it - there are good uses for gift cards. But in essence it still comes off as us vs. them. And again, who has thousands of dollars of unused gift cards lying around?!?! Pardon me, but that alone makes it hard for me to relate.
All that said (rant over), the chapter on time is worth the entire book. "Busy is the new fine." Yes. And busy is not fine. Busy means somehow you're in pain, and unwilling or unable to address that pain. Ultimately I can get behind anyone interested in asking these questions, and can get behind a rich white male spreading the concepts of less is more, family first, avoiding the modern disease of "busy".
All that said (rant over), the chapter on time is worth the entire book. "Busy is the new fine." Yes. And busy is not fine. Busy means somehow you're in pain, and unwilling or unable to address that pain. Ultimately I can get behind anyone interested in asking these questions, and can get behind a rich white male spreading the concepts of less is more, family first, avoiding the modern disease of "busy".
January 31, 2013
I want to read More or Less with all my friends. Jeff Shinabarger wants to change the world, but he doesn't guilt trip you into helping him. Instead, he tells you about the simple experiments in generosity conducted by him and his friends. The lesson: we all have excess, whether it's money, time, relationships, or even love. Sharing our excess with others doesn't affect us much, but it can change someone else's life. I came away from this book feeling rich and wanting to give it away.
January 1, 2014
The first chapter was the only part I really enjoyed. I wrote "WHAT ABOUT JESUS?" on about every other page. For a book that claimed to be a Christian book, there was little to do with Jesus or the implications of His work or the kingdom on our generosity. Not once was 2 Corinthians 8 quoted! What a waste! The author would have been better off writing for a completely irreligious, humanistic audience for as little spiritual emphasis as there was.
Also his ideas, while creative and fun, do assume that everyone reading the book has the same income level as he does. "10 friends get together once a month and put $100 on the table to give away." he writes as an idea. Although I certainly have excess and want the Lord to refine my attitude toward resources I have, I certainly don't have an extra hundred dollars laying around. Even his assumption in that made me feel the distance between his income and mine, exactly what he wants to reduce in the book.
HOWEVER, we are reading this for our assigned reading at school and I hope it is a good starting point for self-examination in the lives of my students who don't understand how privileged they are.
Also his ideas, while creative and fun, do assume that everyone reading the book has the same income level as he does. "10 friends get together once a month and put $100 on the table to give away." he writes as an idea. Although I certainly have excess and want the Lord to refine my attitude toward resources I have, I certainly don't have an extra hundred dollars laying around. Even his assumption in that made me feel the distance between his income and mine, exactly what he wants to reduce in the book.
HOWEVER, we are reading this for our assigned reading at school and I hope it is a good starting point for self-examination in the lives of my students who don't understand how privileged they are.
March 6, 2016
I've been borderline obsessed with getting rid of STUFF in our lives, but this book was a great reminder that it's not about just clearing space in our lives. It's about being generous to others with what we have. I loved the authors perspective and relationship with Clarence. This book provided many tangible ways to challenge myself to grow in generosity.
February 1, 2015
While this was a challenging book and really made me reevaluate all the stuff I own, I felt a very large void in Shinabarger's major theme of generosity. It's great if you can live a simple life, own only what you NEED, and give the rest to those in need (and I agree with trying to live that type of life), but the book failed to realize two things.
1) We enjoy these privileges and "extra" things in America because of the men and women who have died to allow us the freedoms and opportunities to own our own property, drink clean water, etc. While I don't say this to be a snobby American or say that we deserve or need all the "extra stuff" of life, I am proud to live in America where our Founding Fathers and economic system is such that I can own these things and live a comfortable, enjoyable life. It's not my responsible to feed and clothe the world...but it's my responsibility to have compassion on them and help those around me...
2) We have a bigger responsibility to point others to Christ, not just generously give them our excess of "stuff." It bothered me to no end that Shinabarger used the example of the homeless man in his community throughout the whole book and never once talked about speaking to this man of Christ. He was so happy to have helped the man with his basic physical needs but never once mentioned his spiritual needs.
If Shinabarger never mentioned that he was a Christian, then I would have given this book 5 stars. From a secular standpoint, the book was challenging and very enjoyable. But knowing that this man is a Christian (from comments he made, I assume him to be born again), I was very disappointed in the lack of spiritual emphasis.
1) We enjoy these privileges and "extra" things in America because of the men and women who have died to allow us the freedoms and opportunities to own our own property, drink clean water, etc. While I don't say this to be a snobby American or say that we deserve or need all the "extra stuff" of life, I am proud to live in America where our Founding Fathers and economic system is such that I can own these things and live a comfortable, enjoyable life. It's not my responsible to feed and clothe the world...but it's my responsibility to have compassion on them and help those around me...
2) We have a bigger responsibility to point others to Christ, not just generously give them our excess of "stuff." It bothered me to no end that Shinabarger used the example of the homeless man in his community throughout the whole book and never once talked about speaking to this man of Christ. He was so happy to have helped the man with his basic physical needs but never once mentioned his spiritual needs.
If Shinabarger never mentioned that he was a Christian, then I would have given this book 5 stars. From a secular standpoint, the book was challenging and very enjoyable. But knowing that this man is a Christian (from comments he made, I assume him to be born again), I was very disappointed in the lack of spiritual emphasis.
June 8, 2013
Free audio version of this at: http://tinyurl.com/me6kyna
This is an awesome, challenging book. It's written by a Christian, but it is for a general audience. It contains a lot of scriptural principles, but written in a way that would challenge anyone. While I want the gospel to be my chief motivation toward generosity and Christ my prime example, I think this book is useful and has its place. I found myself adding the Word to the chapters as I thought about them. I didn't necessarily agree with every line of thought and one chapter rubbed me the wrong way. However, I walked away from nearly every chapter challenged and thankful that I had listened it. I appreciated that the author never laid on the "You're rich and don't care about the poor and therefore, you suck" guilt trip that other books lead to; instead, he uses personal experiences and reasoning to gently prod you to consider your own wealth and priorities.
This is an awesome, challenging book. It's written by a Christian, but it is for a general audience. It contains a lot of scriptural principles, but written in a way that would challenge anyone. While I want the gospel to be my chief motivation toward generosity and Christ my prime example, I think this book is useful and has its place. I found myself adding the Word to the chapters as I thought about them. I didn't necessarily agree with every line of thought and one chapter rubbed me the wrong way. However, I walked away from nearly every chapter challenged and thankful that I had listened it. I appreciated that the author never laid on the "You're rich and don't care about the poor and therefore, you suck" guilt trip that other books lead to; instead, he uses personal experiences and reasoning to gently prod you to consider your own wealth and priorities.
February 26, 2013
Have you ever read one of those books that just wrecks you in a good way? Well, this is one of those books for me. More or Less challenged me. I had to put it down several times to process what I was reading. I will be contemplating and wrestling with this material all my life.
This book will challenge your thinking of how to live in excessive generosity, but it does not make you feel guilty. Jeff gives plenty of real world examples of how living generously can be lived out and gives you challenges to start living generously right away.
Let's change the world!
This book will challenge your thinking of how to live in excessive generosity, but it does not make you feel guilty. Jeff gives plenty of real world examples of how living generously can be lived out and gives you challenges to start living generously right away.
Let's change the world!
February 20, 2018
Jeff Shinabarger tells the story of how he moved to a new home in Atlanta and the neighborhood welcoming committee showed up on his doorstep. It was a homeless guy named Clarence who was eager to let the new neighbor know he was “looking for work.” Jeff suddenly saw his life through Clarence’s eyes and realized he had an overabundance of almost everything.
This change in perspective caused Jeff and his wife to engage in a series of social experiments. For instance, after receiving a credit-card bill in January they realized they had overspent at Christmas and didn’t have the means to pay the bill. They cut back their spending and decided to see if they could go for an entire month by eating only the food in the house. They lasted seven weeks without going to the grocery store.
The author also recounts the social experiments of his friends who tried things like going without a car when theirs broke down. In all, the book is an easy to read collection of thought-provoking stories. Some readers have criticized the book for not having enough Christian content, but the author’s goal was not to be preachy. Rather, he wanted to create a sharable book for people regardless of their spiritual comfort level.
I thought personal experiences shared in the book really created a credible message, even more so than quoting a bunch of Bible verses. Rather, the stories made the struggle of determining how much is enough believable and relatable. We all have the tendency to want more and more stuff. Breaking that habit is uncomfortable, at best. By sharing his own challenges, he made it easier for others to embrace the difficulties of defining for ourselves how much is enough.
He also provided thoughtful examples of ways we can benefit others with our excess. It’s not simply about living with less, but about making a difference with the excess we have. Our excess can meet the needs of others if we consider how to make it happen.
This change in perspective caused Jeff and his wife to engage in a series of social experiments. For instance, after receiving a credit-card bill in January they realized they had overspent at Christmas and didn’t have the means to pay the bill. They cut back their spending and decided to see if they could go for an entire month by eating only the food in the house. They lasted seven weeks without going to the grocery store.
The author also recounts the social experiments of his friends who tried things like going without a car when theirs broke down. In all, the book is an easy to read collection of thought-provoking stories. Some readers have criticized the book for not having enough Christian content, but the author’s goal was not to be preachy. Rather, he wanted to create a sharable book for people regardless of their spiritual comfort level.
I thought personal experiences shared in the book really created a credible message, even more so than quoting a bunch of Bible verses. Rather, the stories made the struggle of determining how much is enough believable and relatable. We all have the tendency to want more and more stuff. Breaking that habit is uncomfortable, at best. By sharing his own challenges, he made it easier for others to embrace the difficulties of defining for ourselves how much is enough.
He also provided thoughtful examples of ways we can benefit others with our excess. It’s not simply about living with less, but about making a difference with the excess we have. Our excess can meet the needs of others if we consider how to make it happen.
October 22, 2014
3.5 Stars. This book definitely opened my eyes. I've always been quick to volunteer and donate monthly since I was around 9, but I never really thought about how much excess I really have and how many more little (and big!) things I can do. Maybe it would've been better if I'd read the book rather than listening to the audiobook so I could skim bits, but I wish he'd given more details about the stories rather than repeating himself about having excess every story. I think with many of them he could've "shown" rather than "tell", which he did sometimes and those were the stories I enjoyed the most (ie: the refugees). Either way I would definitely recommend this book to anyone, I just would recommend the book over the audiobook so that the reader can read the stories/challenges and skip some of the repeating pep talks. Thank you Jeff and everyone else mentioned in the book for the selflessness actions you do to help others. Hopefully this book will help others take actions too, one step at a time.
October 29, 2017
I happened upon this book a while back in a used book store and it was really the subtitle that caught my attention: Choosing a Lifestyle of Excessive Generosity. I'm a firm believer in the power of generosity to change the world, and apparently too is author Jeff Shinabarger. Reading More or Less, one can't help but be caught up in Jeff's passionate approach to generosity. Here is a man who seems to truly walk his talk when he advocates that we should all be turning our excess into someone else's enough; that our excess can indeed help fulfill the needs of those less fortunate, less connected or less gifted. Whether he is talking about food, clothing, money, time, our connections (what he calls access), or even gift cards we've received, Shinabarger shows how we all have something extra in our life that can be generously shared to make someone else's life better. At a time when there can seem to be so much greed and entitlement in the world, Jeff's book is a welcome and inspiring breath of fresh new air.
August 3, 2018
Don't read this. Instead read George Muller's biography by Janet and Geoff Benge. Or "Daring to Live on the Edge" by Loren Cunningham. Or Randy Alcorn's "Money, Possessions and Eternity". These books will introduce you to real people who learned to live with less through real life trials and learned deep truths about the Lord while they were at it.
I'm so disappointed in this book that was profiled by WORLD magazine. I expected a faith-based book with real ideas about how to decide how much is enough, not ideas about how to manufacture artificial "social experiments", like choosing to walk to work for 40 days or wearing through every outfit in one's wardrobe once before wearing it again in order to experience "solidarity" with those who don't have enough money to have extensive wardrobes. ??
This book was very thin on trust in Christ's guidance and thick, thick, thick on feel-good humanism. :-(
I'm so disappointed in this book that was profiled by WORLD magazine. I expected a faith-based book with real ideas about how to decide how much is enough, not ideas about how to manufacture artificial "social experiments", like choosing to walk to work for 40 days or wearing through every outfit in one's wardrobe once before wearing it again in order to experience "solidarity" with those who don't have enough money to have extensive wardrobes. ??
This book was very thin on trust in Christ's guidance and thick, thick, thick on feel-good humanism. :-(
May 14, 2015
I want to give this a 3.5, but I rounded up.
This book is very conversational, so an easy read in terms of readability, but not such an easy read in terms of conviction. Jeff gives some very poignant stories of people who decided they had enough in different areas of their lives and used it to give to others in need. He gives some very practical tips for doing your own "Enough" experiment.
Caution: you have to fight against judging as you read. Whether someone does an "Enough" experiment and reverts, or you perceive areas in which people live extravagantly, guard your heart and let God do the work in you. My enough may be different from yours.
I walked away thinking of all the areas in which I have enough, so I guess Jeff made his point.
This book is very conversational, so an easy read in terms of readability, but not such an easy read in terms of conviction. Jeff gives some very poignant stories of people who decided they had enough in different areas of their lives and used it to give to others in need. He gives some very practical tips for doing your own "Enough" experiment.
Caution: you have to fight against judging as you read. Whether someone does an "Enough" experiment and reverts, or you perceive areas in which people live extravagantly, guard your heart and let God do the work in you. My enough may be different from yours.
I walked away thinking of all the areas in which I have enough, so I guess Jeff made his point.
June 16, 2013
It is a well-written book and there are a lot of good points to think about... but it is hard to adjust it for a country other than the US. I live in Ukraine and most of the things he discussed as being "poor" is quite normal (and sometimes pretty good) here in Ukraine. For example, I don't know anyone who is local and owns a dryer. Most of the time it's because there's no space for it. Or the huge problem of taking a bus to work or commute that takes an hour. It's pretty standard here.
So all in all, like I said, a good book. Just very localized.
So all in all, like I said, a good book. Just very localized.
January 3, 2014
If you are a fan of Love Does by Bob Goff then this book is for you. It's all about becoming less so that others may be more and God can be glorified.
"Generous people don't speak about their generosity, but others do."
"The more time you give to everything the less focused you are on what matters."
"When you give your opportunities and energies to serve the calling of others, everyone wins."
Definitely will be my top read this year and it is my first book read in 2014.
"Generous people don't speak about their generosity, but others do."
"The more time you give to everything the less focused you are on what matters."
"When you give your opportunities and energies to serve the calling of others, everyone wins."
Definitely will be my top read this year and it is my first book read in 2014.
January 31, 2017
Good stuff here. Too much still to process though... I need to sit with it for a bit, but not too long, otherwise I'll end up not taking action. I'm always frustrated by my futile efforts to purge/donate/simplify because I always end up buying more stuff. That's the key... get rid of it and don't give in to desires for more. More clothes, food, money, etc. Give generously and excessively.
February 26, 2017
This book rubbed me the wrong way and wasn't great. Main point which I will take away is if you want to be generous, hang out with people who are in need.
July 16, 2018
Christian but the problems he faces are not specific to religion but to the world.
January 22, 2014
More or Less is more of a firm prod toward downsizing your life for the good of others, but less of a Christian-based, expansively considered treatise on caring for others with material goods. Much of the book rings true and is a helpful challenge to the excesses of modern materialistic culture, and in that respect its message is badly needed. I know that I need to consider more often what in my life is necessary and what is excess, so I can open my hands more readily to those around me who may need it.
My one criticism of the book is that though marketed as something of a Christian book, Shinabarger mentions relatively little of Christianity in the book, and obviously seeks to appeal to broad culture to be more generous and help their neighbors, obviously to gain some support for his personal entrepreneurial, philanthropic ventures, which is fine and good. But it would've been helpful to delve deeper into why our faith reinforces what we do, and not simply settle for what feels like a much-repeated tome of "downsize, do good, stand with the oppressed, fight for justice" aphorisms. He also puts some emphasis on more popular, hip concerns that may be somewhat valid (creation care like recycling vinyl billboards) but ignores things that I find much more significant, like cash donations to fighting the injustices of abortion.
The big issues, such as hunger, disease, education and the like can only be treated as we all downsize our bloated style of living—thank you for challenging me in this, Jeff. But I feel that the book fails to sufficiently address the ways that we NEED excess—not to care for ourselves, but for others. IF we're not careful we simply devolve into a socialistic "everyone share and everything will be wonderful" mindset, when I believe history shows us that it is often not about the rich going without (although we can and should learn how to do that to an extent, for we are indeed rich)—but about those with excess resources retaining the necessary degree of those so that opportunities can be fostered to help meet the needs of broader communities and the world. So instead of asking, "Is a car really necessary? Couldn't I sell my car and walk?" Why don't we ask how owning and taking care of our vehicles can be used to help our neighbors, and to help us be as efficient as we can be to be productive so we have extra to help meet the needs of others? In the end, I believe helping isn't about getting rid of what we have, but utilizing our restrained and carefully considered excess with wise management and love. Which, ultimately, is what I think Jeff is saying. So in that, I congratulate him for making me ask, what is enough?
I would recommend Tim Keller's Ministries of Mercy, and would like to read When Helping Hurts: How to Alleviate Poverty Without Hurting the Poor . . . and Yourself by Steve Corbett and Brian Fikkert, which looks to be a helpfully thoughtful book on broader strategies for giving.
My one criticism of the book is that though marketed as something of a Christian book, Shinabarger mentions relatively little of Christianity in the book, and obviously seeks to appeal to broad culture to be more generous and help their neighbors, obviously to gain some support for his personal entrepreneurial, philanthropic ventures, which is fine and good. But it would've been helpful to delve deeper into why our faith reinforces what we do, and not simply settle for what feels like a much-repeated tome of "downsize, do good, stand with the oppressed, fight for justice" aphorisms. He also puts some emphasis on more popular, hip concerns that may be somewhat valid (creation care like recycling vinyl billboards) but ignores things that I find much more significant, like cash donations to fighting the injustices of abortion.
The big issues, such as hunger, disease, education and the like can only be treated as we all downsize our bloated style of living—thank you for challenging me in this, Jeff. But I feel that the book fails to sufficiently address the ways that we NEED excess—not to care for ourselves, but for others. IF we're not careful we simply devolve into a socialistic "everyone share and everything will be wonderful" mindset, when I believe history shows us that it is often not about the rich going without (although we can and should learn how to do that to an extent, for we are indeed rich)—but about those with excess resources retaining the necessary degree of those so that opportunities can be fostered to help meet the needs of broader communities and the world. So instead of asking, "Is a car really necessary? Couldn't I sell my car and walk?" Why don't we ask how owning and taking care of our vehicles can be used to help our neighbors, and to help us be as efficient as we can be to be productive so we have extra to help meet the needs of others? In the end, I believe helping isn't about getting rid of what we have, but utilizing our restrained and carefully considered excess with wise management and love. Which, ultimately, is what I think Jeff is saying. So in that, I congratulate him for making me ask, what is enough?
I would recommend Tim Keller's Ministries of Mercy, and would like to read When Helping Hurts: How to Alleviate Poverty Without Hurting the Poor . . . and Yourself by Steve Corbett and Brian Fikkert, which looks to be a helpfully thoughtful book on broader strategies for giving.
March 5, 2013
The best aspect of this book is how it is so thought-provoking. It really makes you step back and analyze your life and how you're living it. The author, Jeff Shinabarger, writes about excess in ones life. This excess can be anything - money, time, love, etc. Do you have more than you need, do you have less than you need?
I agree with Jeff on almost everything he writes about and think he has had some really innovative ideas. One example he uses in this book is when he and his wife decide not to go grocery shopping for a full month, except for milk. They have an excess of food in their pantry so they will see if they can sustain themselves on that food, which they do. From my perspective, I think it is good to have an excess of food in your pantry. You can never predict what kind of disaster or unexpected event that can happen to keep you from being able to leave your house for basic supplies. Better safe than sorry. But I get the point Jeff is trying to make.
Another example Jeff writes about is how most people have an excess of clothes. I believe it's true. Maybe a fourth of my closet I don't wear on a regular basis. Even though I am not very wealthy, I have way more than I NEED. However, consumerism drives the economy and people need jobs, so we can't expect everyone to buy way less and only purchase that which is only absolutely necessary in my opinion.
I like how Jeff leads his life and makes himself an example of good deeds and ideas. His behavior is so that I would like to model/copy it as well. In fact, I've already looked up ways in I can further help those around me and do my part to make the world a little bit of a better place.
On a final note, I love the parts of the book where Jeff writes about, Clarence, his friend who was homeless and really made Jeff think about the life he leads and how to change to be better. I would definitely read a book where Jeff relays anecdotes of his times with Clarence. I'd probably learn a lot.
I agree with Jeff on almost everything he writes about and think he has had some really innovative ideas. One example he uses in this book is when he and his wife decide not to go grocery shopping for a full month, except for milk. They have an excess of food in their pantry so they will see if they can sustain themselves on that food, which they do. From my perspective, I think it is good to have an excess of food in your pantry. You can never predict what kind of disaster or unexpected event that can happen to keep you from being able to leave your house for basic supplies. Better safe than sorry. But I get the point Jeff is trying to make.
Another example Jeff writes about is how most people have an excess of clothes. I believe it's true. Maybe a fourth of my closet I don't wear on a regular basis. Even though I am not very wealthy, I have way more than I NEED. However, consumerism drives the economy and people need jobs, so we can't expect everyone to buy way less and only purchase that which is only absolutely necessary in my opinion.
I like how Jeff leads his life and makes himself an example of good deeds and ideas. His behavior is so that I would like to model/copy it as well. In fact, I've already looked up ways in I can further help those around me and do my part to make the world a little bit of a better place.
On a final note, I love the parts of the book where Jeff writes about, Clarence, his friend who was homeless and really made Jeff think about the life he leads and how to change to be better. I would definitely read a book where Jeff relays anecdotes of his times with Clarence. I'd probably learn a lot.
February 23, 2013
The book is really engaging, calling you look at what is your view of enough. Unlike other books that make you feel guilty for being blessed, More or Less asks you to look at your excess. Once you identify this, you are to look at how you can use your personal excess to bless others.
Jeff talks about social experiments to call you to engage with those around you and see how you can better the world. I love some of the ideas and want to read the book again and figure out where I can conduct my own experiments.
The story was inspiring and encouraged me to want to reach out to those who are living different lives than the one I live. I loved the glimpse into lives of those around Jeff. It makes me realize that I have few friends that don't live lives similar to me or better.
This book has the power to change lives and the way we engage with others. I have already started recommending this to others. One of my favorite lines from the book:
If we never accept our true selves, we will always come up short on what we can become and how that could shape the lives of others.
Disclosure of Material Connection: I received this book free from the publisher through the storycartel.com book review bloggers program. I was not required to write a positive review. The opinions I have expressed are my own.
January 19, 2015
This book is kind of a one-two combo on simplifying your life and being generous. I liked that he calls attention to many areas in which we most likely (as privileged 1st worlders reading a book on what to do with our extra stuff) have excess, and my favorite chapters were the ones with specific ways people have dreamed up for dealing with larger issues of excess and how to reappropriate it for those in need.
I didn't love that, as a Christian, he tiptoed an obviously carefully predetermined line, coming off as religious but never pushing too hard towards the Gospel. Religiosity without conviction and passion comes off sounding like an article from Oprah's magazine. Certainly many people whose work he highlights in the book (I'm thinking particularly of a missionary couple who gives away 40% of their paychecks) are Christians who are giving for the right reasons, but those reasons aren't really ever laid out in this book.
My other hangup was that the focus seemed to be mostly on giving up things that don't really matter to you. "I have 30 t-shirts, I'll give away 15"..."I'll donate these gift cards I would never have used." I love this as a business model for a non-profit (which it is), but not as much as a personal inspiration for giving. Gospel-driven giving isn't about giving out of our excess (although of course we should), it's about giving until it hurts...giving more than some might think wise and trusting God to fill in the gaps. There were examples of this in the book, but really only as temporary "experiments in solidarity," not lifestyle changes.
That being said, I actually WAS inspired by the book and am excited to find ways to make "Enough" a much more central concept in my life. I'd recommend this to anyone, really, but especially Christians who have a solid grasp of the Biblical reasons for generosity and are looking for some practical advice on how to start, with inspirational anecdotes peppered in.
I didn't love that, as a Christian, he tiptoed an obviously carefully predetermined line, coming off as religious but never pushing too hard towards the Gospel. Religiosity without conviction and passion comes off sounding like an article from Oprah's magazine. Certainly many people whose work he highlights in the book (I'm thinking particularly of a missionary couple who gives away 40% of their paychecks) are Christians who are giving for the right reasons, but those reasons aren't really ever laid out in this book.
My other hangup was that the focus seemed to be mostly on giving up things that don't really matter to you. "I have 30 t-shirts, I'll give away 15"..."I'll donate these gift cards I would never have used." I love this as a business model for a non-profit (which it is), but not as much as a personal inspiration for giving. Gospel-driven giving isn't about giving out of our excess (although of course we should), it's about giving until it hurts...giving more than some might think wise and trusting God to fill in the gaps. There were examples of this in the book, but really only as temporary "experiments in solidarity," not lifestyle changes.
That being said, I actually WAS inspired by the book and am excited to find ways to make "Enough" a much more central concept in my life. I'd recommend this to anyone, really, but especially Christians who have a solid grasp of the Biblical reasons for generosity and are looking for some practical advice on how to start, with inspirational anecdotes peppered in.
February 28, 2013
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Do you have more than enough? Want to make a different in your life and others, and don't know where to start?
Jeff Shinabarger is a man full of ideas. And gratefully he has some pretty great ideas on how to be more generous in our daily lives. He inspires generosity by looking at our lives, and finding excess. By giving up that excess to help someone with less.
"Excess is the think I can give away today and it wouldn't change a single aspect of our tomorrow."
This book sort of reads like a how-to book. Each chapter focus on a specific topic: presents, clothes, time, etc. With stories throughout the book of ways his friends and neighbors have made a difference in their community. They looked for what they had more than enough of and then found a way to use it to help others.
The book forces you to reconsider what you have. What can you share with other? How can you rearrange your life to help those in your neighborhood who have less? How do you form stronger community ties? What can you give up that will help you better understand those that make do with less?
The book ends by challenging the reader to do the same. A plan of action. A guide to live a life of generosity.
It was easy to read, conversational in tone, and I really enjoyed reading his personal stories. They helped me relate to him, and feel this is something I can do with him. He never hit me over the head with his message.
While the book is written from a Christian perspective, it's not central to the book, and I think can be enjoyed and appreciated by anyone. I highly really recommend this to anyone and everyone to read.
Do you have more than enough? Want to make a different in your life and others, and don't know where to start?
Jeff Shinabarger is a man full of ideas. And gratefully he has some pretty great ideas on how to be more generous in our daily lives. He inspires generosity by looking at our lives, and finding excess. By giving up that excess to help someone with less.
"Excess is the think I can give away today and it wouldn't change a single aspect of our tomorrow."
This book sort of reads like a how-to book. Each chapter focus on a specific topic: presents, clothes, time, etc. With stories throughout the book of ways his friends and neighbors have made a difference in their community. They looked for what they had more than enough of and then found a way to use it to help others.
The book forces you to reconsider what you have. What can you share with other? How can you rearrange your life to help those in your neighborhood who have less? How do you form stronger community ties? What can you give up that will help you better understand those that make do with less?
The book ends by challenging the reader to do the same. A plan of action. A guide to live a life of generosity.
It was easy to read, conversational in tone, and I really enjoyed reading his personal stories. They helped me relate to him, and feel this is something I can do with him. He never hit me over the head with his message.
While the book is written from a Christian perspective, it's not central to the book, and I think can be enjoyed and appreciated by anyone. I highly really recommend this to anyone and everyone to read.
February 25, 2013
If you want to be inspired towards lifestyle choices, rather than challenged until you feel guilty, this is a great book to read. Jeff makes himself quite vulnerable, describing his own learning curve with mistakes as well as successes, as he takes the reader systematically through each area of our life helping us evaluate what we have, what we need (or even really want), and what to do about the difference. Each chapter ends with a practical task to help implement some of what has been looked at.
Jeff always manages to make things quite immediate and personal - he doesn't just relate stories of poverty on the other side of the globe but starts right where we are, helping us evaluate our own relative "more". At no point does he tell the reader what they should think or do - where we choose to draw the line between "more" and "less" is left to each to decide. But his writing is clear and incisive, the well-crafted fruit of personal conviction and experience. Nor does he limit the concept of "more" to money or physical resources but looks at wider concepts such as the use of our time or our relational networks. He also highlights some of the unusual initiatives that have brought change to different sectors of society.
One final warning. This is a perfect book if you are open to being challenged about the wealth we live with or are already aware of how much we have and are wanting help along the way towards becoming generous in every area of life. However, if you don't want to be made to think about how you live and why, best steer clear...
Book (Kindle edition) received free from StoryCartel in exchange for my review.
Jeff always manages to make things quite immediate and personal - he doesn't just relate stories of poverty on the other side of the globe but starts right where we are, helping us evaluate our own relative "more". At no point does he tell the reader what they should think or do - where we choose to draw the line between "more" and "less" is left to each to decide. But his writing is clear and incisive, the well-crafted fruit of personal conviction and experience. Nor does he limit the concept of "more" to money or physical resources but looks at wider concepts such as the use of our time or our relational networks. He also highlights some of the unusual initiatives that have brought change to different sectors of society.
One final warning. This is a perfect book if you are open to being challenged about the wealth we live with or are already aware of how much we have and are wanting help along the way towards becoming generous in every area of life. However, if you don't want to be made to think about how you live and why, best steer clear...
Book (Kindle edition) received free from StoryCartel in exchange for my review.
April 10, 2013
I first heard about this book at Jeff's Plywood People conference last Fall, and then I attended the book launch a few weeks ago. The personal stories of excessive generosity were intriguing. Jeff's passion for serving others is inspiring. I loved the words by Bob Goff at the beginning of the book:"Instead of making people feel important, they [Jeff and his wife, Andre] make everyone feel loved. Where some people act like bouncers when it comes to other people's ideas, Jeff quietly acts like an usher." How beautiful is that? Ushering is exactly what Jeff does. He ushers in other people's ideas and then helps bring them to fruition.
More or Less is a book about generosity. It's about understanding the twisted relationship we have with all our stuff. The book confronts us with questions about why we continue to want more when we already have SO MUCH MORE than so many others in the the world. But beyond the haunting question, "What is enough?" I loved how Jeff has caused me to pause and consider the "whys" of everything that matters to me. Chapter 10 sums up the theme perfectly: "The good life is not found in luxury; rather it is found in a life that enhances the life of another human. We will become known by the choices we make because people will see the lifestyle that we live and how we give to others."
As a result of this book, I am committed to evaluating how I allocate my time, my resources, my friendships, and my excess. I'm continuing on a journey to understanding my goals for the future, a future that fulfills not only me but that also ultimately shapes the greater good of all of mankind.
More or Less is a book about generosity. It's about understanding the twisted relationship we have with all our stuff. The book confronts us with questions about why we continue to want more when we already have SO MUCH MORE than so many others in the the world. But beyond the haunting question, "What is enough?" I loved how Jeff has caused me to pause and consider the "whys" of everything that matters to me. Chapter 10 sums up the theme perfectly: "The good life is not found in luxury; rather it is found in a life that enhances the life of another human. We will become known by the choices we make because people will see the lifestyle that we live and how we give to others."
As a result of this book, I am committed to evaluating how I allocate my time, my resources, my friendships, and my excess. I'm continuing on a journey to understanding my goals for the future, a future that fulfills not only me but that also ultimately shapes the greater good of all of mankind.
April 19, 2013
In the book More or Less, Jeff Shinabarger asks the question, “What is enough?” We as Americans live in a culture of luxury and excess, and Jeff challenges us to look honestly at what we have and who we are and ask ourselves, “What is enough?” Then after we have asked ourselves, “What is enough?” We are challenged to ask ourselves, “What can we do to help others with the excess that we have?” Then we need to go out and use that excess to help others. Jeff Shinabarger takes us through our houses and our lives a chapter at a time. At the end of each chapter, he has a section called “Enough Talk” in which he gives action steps that we take to apply the concepts he is teaching to our lives. He also has sections throughout the book called “Visual Moments” which gives a website address for a video where you can see these principles put into action.
I have found that this book has been really challenging for me to read. It is challenging because I have found myself questioning what is excess in my life and what I can do with what I have to help others, and I haven’t come up with any answers yet. Let’s just say that I’m still working on it. There is a strong part of me that wants to let go of everything, and there is strong part of me that is holding on to what I have out of fear. I have never really thought of myself as materialistic but this book along with some other events in my life has shown me that I can place too much importance on things and not enough on relationships. The one drawback that I have found to the book is that Jeff Shinabarger does not speak about his faith in Christ, but through reading his stories, you can see his faith lived out in action.
I have found that this book has been really challenging for me to read. It is challenging because I have found myself questioning what is excess in my life and what I can do with what I have to help others, and I haven’t come up with any answers yet. Let’s just say that I’m still working on it. There is a strong part of me that wants to let go of everything, and there is strong part of me that is holding on to what I have out of fear. I have never really thought of myself as materialistic but this book along with some other events in my life has shown me that I can place too much importance on things and not enough on relationships. The one drawback that I have found to the book is that Jeff Shinabarger does not speak about his faith in Christ, but through reading his stories, you can see his faith lived out in action.
May 7, 2015
Audiobook not read by author
This is a pretty good book with some good encouragement on how we can use our excess to help others. Every chapter discusses a different type of excess in our lives, and describes how this can be used to positively impact the world.
"The greatest way to change the world is to change the conversation. The more world-changing conversations we have, the greater chance for the world to change."
There were a lot of good tips/ministry ideas in this book, but here are a few of my favorites. These three things should give you an idea of the types of things inside this book:
-In most cases, you have to spend very little money on your birthday. People take you out to eat and buy you presents. There is a ministry that encourages people to give money on their birthday since this is the day they are already not spending money on anything else. One Day's Wages (http://onedayswages.org/) asks that on your birthday you give away all the money that you earn on that day from your job. The ministry's ultimate goal is to "alleviate extreme global poverty."
-After my wedding I received a lot of gift cards, some of which we still have dollars left on. There is a ministry that collects gift cards that aren't being fully used. They use this leftover money to help those in need. (http://www.giftcardgiver.com/)
-In the same way that we have a garbage can and a recycling bin in our homes, the author encourages readers to have a third bin at home. You could have this new bin around the house so that you can fill it with things that you own but never use (your excess things). Periodically donate these things to people in need.
This is a pretty good book with some good encouragement on how we can use our excess to help others. Every chapter discusses a different type of excess in our lives, and describes how this can be used to positively impact the world.
"The greatest way to change the world is to change the conversation. The more world-changing conversations we have, the greater chance for the world to change."
There were a lot of good tips/ministry ideas in this book, but here are a few of my favorites. These three things should give you an idea of the types of things inside this book:
-In most cases, you have to spend very little money on your birthday. People take you out to eat and buy you presents. There is a ministry that encourages people to give money on their birthday since this is the day they are already not spending money on anything else. One Day's Wages (http://onedayswages.org/) asks that on your birthday you give away all the money that you earn on that day from your job. The ministry's ultimate goal is to "alleviate extreme global poverty."
-After my wedding I received a lot of gift cards, some of which we still have dollars left on. There is a ministry that collects gift cards that aren't being fully used. They use this leftover money to help those in need. (http://www.giftcardgiver.com/)
-In the same way that we have a garbage can and a recycling bin in our homes, the author encourages readers to have a third bin at home. You could have this new bin around the house so that you can fill it with things that you own but never use (your excess things). Periodically donate these things to people in need.
May 16, 2013
Jeff Shinabarger may best be known as the "Gift Card Guy" since he had the creative idea to gather leftover gift cards and apply their collective balances to help those in need. (http://giftcardgiver.com)
In More or Less: Choosing a Lifestyle of Excessive Generosity, he presents a number of other "Enough Experiments" conducted both by himself and others he knows. For instance, he and his wife once decided to see how long they could subsist on the food remaining in their pantry before buying more. The many similar stories included, like Derreck Kayongo's Global Soap Project, are as inspiring as they are challenging to the upper and middle-class status quo in America.
If you don't want to change your habits, if you fear being challenged, or if you like your stuff, don't read this book. Bob Goff says it well in his forward: "Your closets, your cabinets, your love, and your pride are not safe around Jeff. That's because Jeff is going to mess with how you use your time, how you spend your money, and what you do with your stuff."
If you have too much stuff (hint: if you're reading this, it's very likely you do), read this book, but go beyond reading it and find some tangible way to apply it.
In More or Less: Choosing a Lifestyle of Excessive Generosity, he presents a number of other "Enough Experiments" conducted both by himself and others he knows. For instance, he and his wife once decided to see how long they could subsist on the food remaining in their pantry before buying more. The many similar stories included, like Derreck Kayongo's Global Soap Project, are as inspiring as they are challenging to the upper and middle-class status quo in America.
If you don't want to change your habits, if you fear being challenged, or if you like your stuff, don't read this book. Bob Goff says it well in his forward: "Your closets, your cabinets, your love, and your pride are not safe around Jeff. That's because Jeff is going to mess with how you use your time, how you spend your money, and what you do with your stuff."
If you have too much stuff (hint: if you're reading this, it's very likely you do), read this book, but go beyond reading it and find some tangible way to apply it.
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